Sign of life of Apollo FPGA project

[Blizz1220]

Some games run as fast as they can on anything like Barbarian 2 and Wing Commander but most (95 %) work at same speed as they should.

More games won't start with Kick 3.1 Amigas (but strangely work on Kick 3.0 Amigas for some reason).

@Bootdisk

Did you really really have to say A1200 too ? :roflmao:

It's a race against time as some stated and this card would probably be only one I would want to have as replacement.Although A500 was most sold most Amiga 1200s survived and are still used.

[alphadec]

When they completes this for A500 or A1200 then I will make a order.

Just fantastic to have fantastic speed and possible to connect your amiga to a hdmi screen.

[AmiDude]

the same is true for wingcommander and other games... unplayable on fast hardware.

Are these games running slower on a old 060 accellerator?

On 060 accelerators you can always disable burst & caches if games are running to fast.
I'm not sure with this new FPGA, but why would you need so much speed on an old ECS A600 anyway? Rendering low-res animations with Real3D? I can do that much faster with my PC in Hires-Laced mode.

[nyteschayde]

Very interested in A1200 or A4000D compatible models. Once available, I'll likely order 2-3 of them. Don't know if they make socketed FPGA chips, but that might be something to consider too (again, only if feasible). As technology marches on, 68K compatible CPUs are not likely, but faster FPGA chips are definitely probable.

[wawrzon]

another update:
http://majsta.com/
few developer boards delivered, new extended design, production run soon.

[alphadec]

another update:
http://majsta.com/
few developer boards delivered, new extended design, production run soon.

all for A600

[OlafS3]

all for A600

gunnar had promised that there will be options for all models. But you have to start somewhere

[wawrzon]

all for A600

i too do not have an a600 anymore, still i applaud this concentrated approach instead of a expectedly failed attempt to serve everybody right away with all he wishes for.

[kolla]

gunnar had promised that there will be options for all models. But you have to start somewhere

Gunnar has not promised anything, stop using that word! Besides, he is not the one doing the hardware, his hope is that Apollo will become defacto standard CPU core for Amiga, and that others will license his core for their acc card products.

[wawrzon]

his hope is that Apollo will become defacto standard CPU core for Amiga, and that others will license his core for their acc card products.

even though im rather for open source (for security reasons) i would have nothing against if gunnar succeeds with his core even if others would have to license it. i have my doubts about extensions and establishing new standards, but thats another matter.

[matthey]

Gunnar has not promised anything, stop using that word! Besides, he is not the one doing the hardware, his hope is that Apollo will become defacto standard CPU core for Amiga, and that others will license his core for their acc card products.

From my perspective, Gunnar has promised nothing. He has stated that he would like to and plans to bring out new accelerators for different Amiga models. Gunnar has been known to change his mind and plans though.

even though im rather for open source (for security reasons) i would have nothing against if gunnar succeeds with his core even if others would have to license it. i have my doubts about extensions and establishing new standards, but thats another matter.

A single standard is good but one man making all the decisions for it is not. I would hope that those licensing the product would receive the source code with some ability to make changes.

[wawrzon]

A single standard is good but one man making all the decisions for it is not. I would hope that those licensing the product would receive the source code with some ability to make changes.

people behind apollo core, be it gunnar or whomever, are making their choices, and thats their own right. if these choices will become standard depends on many factors, but also on social dynamics similar to what you might thought of as "free market" or "delivery contra demand". i thought this is sympathetic to you, since if the standard occures to be good it may be successful, and then the authors dont have much interest to keep it back. to me its strange that exactly you are calling here for "state control"

Gunnar has been known to change his mind and plans though.

im fine with this attitude. i consider this flexible. remember the long quarrel about movep and that it finally got implemented without any further discussion. questioning and reconsidering is genuinely positive, and people who appear stubborn, may not be really that much as they appear.

[kolla]

I am not worried, the grand plan will never happen, at "best" it just cause yet another split in the community, and in time more compatible open source cores will take over anyways.

And I repeat - all we have is _talk_ that this and that is implemented - or rather, that it is _decided_ to _become_ implemented. So far I have yet to see any concrete evidence of anything when it comes to actual compatibility and the features claimed.

[kolla]

remember the long quarrel about movep and that it finally got implemented without any further discussion.

"it finally got implemented" you say. Or maybe he decided that it would be a cool thing to announce, who knows...

[Iggy]

Gunnar has not promised anything...

Seriously?
You may need professional help.

[kolla]

Seriously?
You may need professional help.

No, I have been following this quite carefully. He has explicitly not been promising anything, only suggesting possibilities. All the "promises" are made up by people who read his stuff and then go on to boards like here and elsewhere, saying "they have promised HDMI output!!", "He promised hardware X, Y and Z". No-one in the Apollo team has promised anything.