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Offline AmigaBruno

Re: Amiga puzzle - disconnected worlds! help?
« Reply #29 on: August 19, 2015, 11:30:03 AM »
I hope to do all of this later this week, possibly starting today.

I have used various emulators with CF cards, but I'm worried in case one or another emulator won't read a CF card. I most recently used FS-UAE under Linux on a PC I built which only has Linux installed.

I'm using Workbench 3.1, while Oldsmobile_Mike was using 3.9. I hope it works exactly the same way.

My USB CF card reader didn't seem to work anymore, after trying two CF cards, although I only tried them under FS-UAE, so I bought a new USB CF card reader and a PCMCIA CF card reader from eBay just to make absolutely sure I can get files onto my CF card. I'm waiting for them to arrive. I hope this doesn't prevent me getting ready for a night out. Perhaps I should buy another CF card as well just for copying files from a PC to an Amiga CF hard drive without removing it. I also hope to read my data from a CF card which will no longer boot or be recognised on my A1200.

I also hope all this will enable to finally transfer my artwork onto the Internet. So far, it's all been stuck on Amiga formatted floppy disks and CF cards. I've never connected my Amigas to the Internet, because I feel that if I did, then they could just become more Internet connected terminals, then I might use them for that a large part of the time. When I used Amigas as my only computers, I used to connect to BBSs some of the time, but I never upgraded enough to connect to the Internet. I used to visit cybercafe's where I saved webpages and files to MS-DOS formatted floppy disks, then read them back on my Amiga with CrossDOS, but now I can't even remember how to use CrossDOS anymore! Also, I don't currently have a PC with a floppy drive, but I do own one with a motherboard that supports a floppy drive. USB drives aren't 100% compatible and probably wouldn't work for the purpose of reading DSDD MS-DOS format disks created on an Amiga, while an Amiga floppy drive may not be able to read DSDD MS-DOS disks formatted on a USB drive either.
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Re: Amiga puzzle - disconnected worlds! help?
« Reply #30 on: August 20, 2015, 10:45:29 AM »
The "fun" never ends it seems...

2 steps forward, 1 step back...
 

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Re: Amiga puzzle - disconnected worlds! help?
« Reply #31 on: August 20, 2015, 11:18:26 AM »
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand finally!!!!!!!!!!!! =) =) =) =) =)

Thanks to everyone who helped out there... that was quite an ordeal!!

How I've missed the smooth scrolltext... can't do that on WinUAE ;)

Nor the "Swedish Meltdown" from the demo below (see pic) - seems to crash WinUAE (some whacky video overscan stuff going on)

THANK YOU EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Re: Amiga puzzle - disconnected worlds! help?
« Reply #32 on: August 20, 2015, 01:21:59 PM »
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand finally!!!!!!!!!!!! =) =) =) =) =)

Thanks to everyone who helped out there... that was quite an ordeal!!

How I've missed the smooth scrolltext... can't do that on WinUAE ;)

Nor the "Swedish Meltdown" from the demo below (see pic) - seems to crash WinUAE (some whacky video overscan stuff going on)

THANK YOU EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I'm glad you've succeeded in your goal. I can even read Swedish, German, Danish, and Dutch scroll text.

As for my latest news, a USB CF card reader arrived yesterday. I inserted my old CF card which I can no longer boot my A1200 from and the A1200 can't even detect it, then I plugged it into a Pentium 4 HT CPU computer running Linux Mint 17.1 "Rebecca".

I found I got different readings for what the device or card was called depending on which USB port I plugged it into. I only had the FS-UAE emulator and couldn't find another emulator to download. I found that FS-UAE recognised it but wouldn't boot from it, default to a floppy df0:. It showed the card as about 4Gb and half full, but didn't show any files on it, no matter how I changed the options such as Show all files, as Icons, etc.

I also tried under the Linux Mint desktop and the formatter GParted. It appeared as a 2.1Gb device on the desktop, while GParted said something like 2Gb, but 4Gb used and that the format was FAT32, but I had formatted this card some time ago as Amiga FFS with 3 or 4 partitions. I don't know what this all means, but it doesn't encourage me to try reading my new card from Amigakit, which was preformatted with WHDload installed. All I did with this card before was trying to read it in a USB CF card reader which has worked in the past. It couldn't read it, so I tried to plug it back into my A1200 and bent a pin on the CF IDE adaptor.

I hope someone can suggest whatI can try next with my old CF card. Meanwhile, I'm waiting for a PCMCIA card reader to arrive.
 

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Re: Amiga puzzle - disconnected worlds! help?
« Reply #33 on: August 21, 2015, 07:56:46 AM »
Ok, in keeping with the journey so far.... another road block.

The Select File button does nothing. nothing at all.

Is this the fault of installer or WHDLoad or.... something else? good times.... :-/


Thanks again!!
 

Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: Amiga puzzle - disconnected worlds! help?
« Reply #34 on: August 21, 2015, 08:11:00 AM »
You have the latest WHDLoad and Installer installed?  Could just be a bad install script.  Do they all do this or just Turrican 2?
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Re: Amiga puzzle - disconnected worlds! help?
« Reply #35 on: August 21, 2015, 08:39:30 AM »
@RedWarrior

I can't remember when I used installer from WHDLoad for something
but as I said I think it expects real floppy (original) in floppy drive
to create WHDLoad install of it.

You can use UnADF from Aminet to write ADFs to floppy drive and then
insert floppy and use WHDLoad intstaller.Most ADFs out there are not
originals though and won't work with WHDLoad (Demos should work).

Maybe stupid comment but I think you need that select button only
when floppy has been read to save raw image , really not sure.

Doing it this way will take you (Amiga :roflmao:) forever.Look for pre-installed
WHDLoad games , all are there.If you take WHDL and download and make one word you get word WHDownload.Then you add .com to it and all you need is there pre-intstalled (demos too).

@AmigaBruno

Option I used was WinUAE and real PATA hard drive connected
to PC motherboard.Then selecting "real hard drive option" there and it would work fine.Add another Directory from PC
as drive and copy files there.I don't know if CF-IDE should
work this way but I think it's very likely it should.

Other option is to use PCMCIA card on Amiga (Again there is Aminet driver for those larger that 4 Mb) and copy files there
and read them on PC (PCMCIA is FAT formatted so you should be able to read it on any Windows , Linux).
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Re: Amiga puzzle - disconnected worlds! help?
« Reply #36 on: August 21, 2015, 10:10:04 AM »
I'm running the pre-packaged WHDLoad script thingies... One worked (Rebels Megademo)

And 2 failed so far... it's weird they won't let me choose a source for the adf file. The Lemmings one said that I had to choose "expert mode" if I was loading from adf.... which I did... and it made no difference.

The Amiga world really is just held together with stickytape & faded dreams isn't it... ;)
 

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Re: Amiga puzzle - disconnected worlds! help?
« Reply #37 on: August 21, 2015, 10:25:40 AM »
To be sure- I just verified I have the latest WHDLoad (from WHDLoad.de)  - and the 44.1 installer... ( I had 43.3 or something...) no difference.

Also the WHDLoad Lemmings file came directly from the WHDLoad.de site... so one might assume they are the best ones to use?

Yay computers.  >:-S
 

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Re: Amiga puzzle - disconnected worlds! help?
« Reply #38 on: August 21, 2015, 10:33:05 AM »
Lol :)

Well I'm guessing that newer installers support ADFs while older
ones require floppies.I didn't really have much luck either with manual
installing.
 

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Re: Amiga puzzle - disconnected worlds! help?
« Reply #39 on: August 21, 2015, 10:47:51 AM »
What's a RAWDic? ... if that's not a rude question?


I installed that megademo, and it's older than Lemmings...

Any solutions very much welcomed. It would seem that the very first game I try to install is the one with a legacy of issues... only 1 actual install file on the whole internet that I can find...

Curious that the same thing happened with the Turrican install... Could it be that RAWdic thing? I'm out of options...
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Offline paul1981

Re: Amiga puzzle - disconnected worlds! help?
« Reply #40 on: August 21, 2015, 12:40:16 PM »
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What's a RAWDic? ... if that's not a rude question?


I installed that megademo, and it's older than Lemmings...

Any solutions very much welcomed. It would seem that the very first game I try to install is the one with a legacy of issues... only 1 actual install file on the whole internet that I can find...

Curious that the same thing happened with the Turrican install... Could it be that RAWdic thing? I'm out of options...


Just get what you want from here:

http://whdownload.com/

Much quicker...
 

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Re: Amiga puzzle - disconnected worlds! help?
« Reply #41 on: August 21, 2015, 12:45:06 PM »
I've visited that site already... it doesn't offer any Install files. ... I don't know how to manually rig WHDLoad to search for a specific adf etc...
 

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Re: Amiga puzzle - disconnected worlds! help?
« Reply #42 on: August 21, 2015, 12:51:34 PM »
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I've visited that site already... it doesn't offer any Install files. ... I don't know how to manually rig WHDLoad to search for a specific adf etc...


You don't need the install files. Simply find the games you want, unzip them and they're ready to run. :)
 

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Re: Amiga puzzle - disconnected worlds! help?
« Reply #43 on: August 21, 2015, 12:53:44 PM »
"Ready to run" in what sense? I've downloaded these... I couldn't get anything useful to happen.
 

Offline paul1981

Re: Amiga puzzle - disconnected worlds! help?
« Reply #44 from previous page: August 21, 2015, 12:59:59 PM »
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"Ready to run" in what sense? I've downloaded these... I couldn't get anything useful to happen.


That would indicate a software issue with your Amiga then. These files once unzipped contain an already installed game or demo. There is the icon for the game or demo to double click to load it.
Perhaps on the ones you tried they needed kickstart files that you may not have in your 'DEVS:Kickstarts' drawer. Or, some games/demos may need a 68020 or above (sorry, can't remember what Amiga you're trying to run these on).
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