bars & pipes pro

[dschallock]

Is Bars & Pipes Pro 2.5 the last 68k version?  Is it still commercially available or is open source now?  I see that there is a new version being actively developed for OS4 which is awesome, but I was wanting to use a 68k version to do some work in conjunction with my AD516.
Thanks.

[eliyahu]

@dschallock

not sure about the 68K version, but LyleHaze would probably know since he was in contact with alfred. you could try sending him a PM in case he doesn't see this thread.

-- eliyahu

[Matt_H]

2.5 was the last commercial version and is now effectively freeware. Alfred got the source code and continued development under the name BarsnPipes. Not sure what the last version of that is, but I believe his website is still online.

[VingtTrois]

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/barsnpipes/info
Lyle Hazelwood

[golem]

Bars & Pipes rocks. Big respect to Alfred and Lyle for keeping it alive.

[aggro_mix]

Alfred's last version for 68k was 1.29 http://bnp.hansfaust.de/download.html#BPNew

[LyleHaze]

@dschallock

not sure about the 68K version, but LyleHaze would probably know since he was in contact with alfred. you could try sending him a PM in case he doesn't see this thread.

-- eliyahu

I'd be happy to answer any questions, except it looks like all the info is here already.

The last commercial 68k version was 2.5b (I think). I think it's available from Alfreds site.
Alfred developed it further for many years, and also created versions specific to MOS and AmigaOS.

After Alfred retired from further B&P work, I asked for, and was granted, the AmigaOS version for further development.

(shameless plug) AmigaOS versions 4.1FE and onward include a complete 16 channel General Midi softsynth in the "Contributions". Using this, external synthesizers and MIDI interfaces are no longer required.

[Blatboy]

Big thumbs up to Bars and Pipes... thanks Alfred and Lyle!

Slightly off topic, yet not... BnP was a part of my musical "coming of age" as such.  I'm now a pro musician and composer... using BnP to learn sequencing in general at such an early time (late 80's, early 90's) was a total boon in my ability to jump right in when the opportunity came up to compose for television and movies later in life.  I wasn't a tracker guy, I was more a traditional musician, and the Bars N Pipes approach really worked for me.  I used it in college to make "music minus one" recordings to practice trombone and piano with.  

I find Logic, which I use full time for work, to be a little reminiscent of BnP...  

I still have the original outboard MIDI gear I used back then.  I may have to hook that up and play some files from the A500 w/BnP..

Good stuff!

[aggro_mix]

After Alfred retired from further B&P work, I asked for, and was granted, the AmigaOS version for further development.

Will that be for OS4.x only or are there any plans for 68k as well?

[LyleHaze]

Will that be for OS4.x only or are there any plans for 68k as well?

I am working on the AmigaOS4 version. I believe there is another who is working on the classic version. You could probably find out by joining the Yahoo group and asking around.
I have been asked before about working on other versions, but I'm not doing so at this time. Since I only asked for the AmigaOS4 version, and since I only own AmigaOS4 machines, along with a serious overload of "projects requiring immediate attention". My plate is too full already.

Bars&Pipes is pretty amazing. I started with "SoundScape", which was also written by Todor Fay, and I moved on to Bars&Pipes when it became available. The fact that both of these programs allowed user-compiled modules was my start in "C" programming as well. The other program I used a lot was "Deluxe Music Construction Set", which offered better notation-style editing than either of the others. All three great programs.

[theprez]

@ blatboy

Thanks for the comments re: use by a traditional musician.  I am also a traditional musician and was wondering about Bars n Pipes, which I have owned (68k version) for years and not used due to the pressures of my musical practice (i.e., teaching and performing).  Now I'm looking into it to further promote Amiga.  So your "off-topic" comment has helped me want to investigate further.  Thanks as well to Lyle for keeping the project alive.