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Re: Commodore Android phone..
« Reply #29 from previous page: July 16, 2015, 08:13:56 PM »
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Re: Commodore Android phone..
« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2015, 10:04:52 PM »
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;792529
I can only assume this is a joke.  :laughing:




I'm trying to stay positive here.. :).  And at the end of the day nothing comes of this "new" PET phone, oh well.  For me its no big deal.
I have way more than enough real Commodore and Amiga gear to
last a few lifetimes, yup I got it like that!  If it does happen, sweet I'm in and will give it an honest go.  Hang on to it and in 10 years listit on eBay.  And add it to the thread "Are we still posting crazy eBay auctions?"... Haha.

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Re: Commodore Android phone..
« Reply #31 on: July 16, 2015, 10:35:33 PM »
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I'm trying to stay positive here.. :).  And at the end of the day nothing comes of this "new" PET phone, oh well.  For me its no big deal.
I have way more than enough real Commodore and Amiga gear to
last a few lifetimes, yup I got it like that!  If it does happen, sweet I'm in and will give it an honest go.  Hang on to it and in 10 years listit on eBay.  And add it to the thread "Are we still posting crazy eBay auctions?"... Haha.

Rich


No idea why the entire news media covering this story couldn't find their Italian distributor, but...
http://www.en.amibyte.com/
Apparently you can talk pre-order with them.

(Note:This was CUSA's only authorized configuration partner.

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Re: Commodore Android phone..
« Reply #32 on: July 17, 2015, 06:53:38 AM »
Put it that way: I would gladly pay this kind of money for an n-th hand retro computer or a crowdfunding project about a computer peripheral/expansion/upgrade for a retro computer (preferably Amiga related). For a (yet another) Android phone/tablet/console? Not a chance, even if it had a CPU that doesn't suck.
 

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Re: Commodore Android phone..
« Reply #33 on: July 17, 2015, 12:34:54 PM »
So i'm assuming most people won't be buying this phone.
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Re: Commodore Android phone..
« Reply #34 on: July 20, 2015, 11:42:02 PM »
Am I right in saying that this is not the Orgtec phone but a new one from some of the developers of AROS (including Paolo Besser of Icaros fame)?

If so then why do I seem to be the only one who is excited by the news that they have the Commodore license?
 

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Re: Commodore Android phone..
« Reply #35 on: July 20, 2015, 11:49:52 PM »
@Paulie85

AFAIK it's just a rebadged chinese phone -- and not a very good one. if there's some info suggesting it's going to run AROS or something amiga-related, i'd love to know. is there a link to some page indicating such?

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Re: Commodore Android phone..
« Reply #36 on: July 20, 2015, 11:52:15 PM »
I'm just going by the reply posted here (apparently by Paolo Besser)

http://9to5google.com/2015/07/15/that-commodore-phone-isnt-a-commodore-at-all-its-the-orgtec-waphone/
 

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Re: Commodore Android phone..
« Reply #37 on: July 20, 2015, 11:54:50 PM »
@Paulie85

Paolo "Paolone" Besser is not only the creator and maintainer of Icaros, but also has a solid background as journalist for the italian editions of ZZAP! and The Games Machine, where used to work on 64 and Amigas; he is involved in the Commodore Smartphone development and i can expect will use its competence and knowledge to make the best job for future integrations customizations and user experience :)

and in that reply Paolone is mentioning the Amiga emulator will use the AROS 68k roms rather than cloanto distributed ones
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Re: Commodore Android phone..
« Reply #38 on: July 20, 2015, 11:56:23 PM »
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@Paulie85

Paolo "Paolone" Besser is not only the creator and maintainer of Icaros, but also has a solid background as journalist for the italian editions of ZZAP! and The Games Machine, where used to work on 64 and Amigas; he is involved in the Commodore Smartphone development and i can expect will use its competence and knowledge to make the best job for future integrations customizations and user experience :)


Wow, that is amazing news!:)
Maybe I will buy one afterall
 

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Re: Commodore Android phone..
« Reply #39 on: July 21, 2015, 03:13:39 AM »
Why is it amazing news?  The thing is still what every Android site says it is, lol.  Perhaps this new Commodore offshoot didn't buy the phones from anything but a Chinese Fire Sale site, but it is what all the sites say it is.  They didn't custom make the thing, it's a mass market, low to mid range phone from China with a Chickenlips logo screened onto it.

I don't consider it coming with AROS ROM's a selling point, personally.  AROS is a terrific offering, but assuming the Android ROM's are in a similar state as the desktop ones are, well - a few days ago when I tried the newest AROS replacement ROM's under UAE, I couldn't even vaguely consider them being "daily driver" replacement ROM's for the ones the good folks at Commodore did 20 years ago (3.1).  Sorry, AROS guys, that's my experience as of a few days ago.

Not a slag against AROS, it's a hell of a big project to rewrite ROM's/a legacy ROM/OS replacement, but when I tried them last (again, a few days ago, via UAE/AF), I'm not sure I'd even call them usable.  I couldn't even get CED fired up under them, anyways, much less my usual suite of apps I run on legacy Amiga OS.

But far be it from me to dissuade anyone from paying double what a product is going for just because some freeware software (emulators, ROM's) and a Chickenlips logo is on there.

Anyone with a good set of eyes can see what the thing is, hardware wise.  If you wanted a custom Commodore phone, well, you'll get a custom Commodore PET box, lol.
 

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Re: Commodore Android phone..
« Reply #40 on: July 21, 2015, 03:22:06 AM »
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Why is it amazing news?  The thing is still what every Android site says it is, lol.  Perhaps this new Commodore offshoot didn't buy the phones from anything but a Chinese Fire Sale site, but it is what all the sites say it is.  They didn't custom make the thing, it's a mass market, low to mid range phone from China with a Chickenlips logo screened onto it.

I don't consider it coming with AROS ROM's a selling point, personally.  AROS is a terrific offering, but assuming the Android ROM's are in a similar state as the desktop ones are, well - a few days ago when I tried the newest AROS replacement ROM's under UAE, I couldn't even vaguely consider them being "daily driver" replacement ROM's for the ones the good folks at Commodore did 20 years ago (3.1).  Sorry, AROS guys, that's my experience as of a few days ago.

Not a slag against AROS, it's a hell of a big project to rewrite ROM's/a legacy ROM/OS replacement, but when I tried them last (again, a few days ago, via UAE/AF), I'm not sure I'd even call them usable.  I couldn't even get CED fired up under them, anyways, much less my usual suite of apps I run on legacy Amiga OS.

But far be it from me to dissuade anyone from paying double what a product is going for just because some freeware software (emulators, ROM's) and a Chickenlips logo is on there.

Anyone with a good set of eyes can see what the thing is, hardware wise.  If you wanted a custom Commodore phone, well, you'll get a custom Commodore PET box, lol.

I meant that it was amazing news that people involved with AROS are involved with this new Commodore outfit. I would be willing to pay a bit more for a phone if it helped fund future developments ( I am a big fan of Icaros Desktop).
 

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Re: Commodore Android phone..
« Reply #41 on: July 21, 2015, 04:28:53 AM »
Fair enough - apologies if I got up your hindquarters, heh.

I don't begrudge anyone spending their hard earned wages on whatever they want to, but let's just be realistic on this particular device - if you're intent on buying it, you can buy it for half the price this new "Commodore" outfit is selling it for, and it indeed is, at best - a lower to mid-range Android device, specs wise.  You can find the same phone, minus the Chickenlips logo - on the 'net any day of the week for half the cost of this "PET" phone.

If anyone does buy it, do give us a full review on it.  I'd particularly like to hear if these new MediaTek equipped phones have the same GPS issues I've (and others) suffered through with my own MediaTek chipped device.

The MediaTek equipped phone I have is so flaky GPS wise I've got an old S3 strapped to the dash of my work truck that does nothing but GPS - the MediaTek chipped Alcatel I have, the GPS on it can't be relied on in the least.  Otherwise, it's been a pretty decent phone, other than the small battery on it.  I'd like to think the newer chips from MediaTek are far better, because quite frankly I'm not sure how they are staying in business if things haven't improved.

I'd also be curious to see if these phones get any further Android full revision updates - I wouldn't put too much bank on it if this phone I have is any indication.  They didn't even deliver on the last incremental version of KK they promised.
 

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Re: Commodore Android phone..
« Reply #42 on: July 22, 2015, 09:20:17 PM »
@thread

looks like the 'designer' of the phone didn't actually design it. and he doesn't want to be associated with the italian/UK 'new' commodore: http://www.technewsworld.com/story/82273.html

hat-tip to @number6 for finding the article. :)

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Re: Commodore Android phone..
« Reply #43 on: July 22, 2015, 09:37:55 PM »
Ouch, pretty big sting when the designer wants nothing to do with it.
 

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Re: Commodore Android phone..
« Reply #44 on: July 22, 2015, 09:53:35 PM »
Just Read the European (probably meaning UK) version will released in a Biscuit Coffee Stained Colour. Bit disappointing don't you think. :mad:
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