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Offline SACC-guyTopic starter

refurbished or new power supplies
« on: June 05, 2015, 07:25:50 AM »
Many Amigas need new or refurbished power supplies.
Very few amigians (I'm one) can rebuild these items or find new old stock.

In the mac world, you can buy a exact (refurbished) power supply and then send in your old one for a discount. In the pc world ...

The only other option I know of is to buy an AmigaKit atx power adaptor and atx power supply.
But these are not exact fits... and sometimes need other work. (i.e. tic clock issues, size, connectors)
In my case, I will need an AT type power supply. Getting very hard to find!

Does anyone know if this service is available?
 

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Re: refurbished or new power supplies
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2015, 04:22:21 PM »
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Many Amigas need new or refurbished power supplies.
Very few amigians (I'm one) can rebuild these items or find new old stock.


I'm not aware of anyone who advertises refurbished Amiga power supplies. It's not rocket science and I expect Amiga repair shops could fix power supplies also. I agree that the original type power supply has advantages.

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In my case, I will need an AT type power supply. Getting very hard to find!


NewEgg has an AT power supply at a reasonable price.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817338010&cm_re=AT_power_supply-_-17-338-010-_-Product
 

Offline mechy

Re: refurbished or new power supplies
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2015, 04:54:36 PM »
Quote from: SACC-guy;790630
Many Amigas need new or refurbished power supplies.
Very few amigians (I'm one) can rebuild these items or find new old stock.

In the mac world, you can buy a exact (refurbished) power supply and then send in your old one for a discount. In the pc world ...

The only other option I know of is to buy an AmigaKit atx power adaptor and atx power supply.
But these are not exact fits... and sometimes need other work. (i.e. tic clock issues, size, connectors)
In my case, I will need an AT type power supply. Getting very hard to find!

Does anyone know if this service is available?


I know this is of no help to you at all,but I used to install atx psu's inside A4000 cases but its load of work and i doubt anyone would pay the price of labor, it was a pretty nice solution since it looked almost factory. The same can be done with 3000T,and mini ITX fits the 3000. tick jumpers can be set to vsync on big box models so tick isnt a problem. Some need -5v however and its getting harder to find psu's that supply this voltage since it was written out of the atx and mini/micro atx standard. Athena makes a 300W AT psu but they are of dubious quality.

Mech
 

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Re: refurbished or new power supplies
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2015, 05:45:23 PM »
For about $80 US + shipping you can get a new power supply from this guy:

http://personalpages.tds.net/~rcarlsen/cbm/universal_ps/AMIGA/Amiga%20PS.jpg

Of course these are for A500, A600 & 1200.

I have 2 of his 64/128 power supplies and they work great!
 

Offline SACC-guyTopic starter

Re: refurbished or new power supplies
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2015, 06:27:13 PM »
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I know this is of no help to you at all,but I used to install atx psu's inside A4000 cases but its load of work and i doubt anyone would pay the price of labor, it was a pretty nice solution since it looked almost factory. The same can be done with 3000T,and mini ITX fits the 3000. tick jumpers can be set to vsync on big box models so tick isnt a problem. Some need -5v however and its getting harder to find psu's that supply this voltage since it was written out of the atx and mini/micro atx standard. Athena makes a 300W AT psu but they are of dubious quality.

Mech
@mechy
Thx for the info and...

How much (IYO) is the price of labor? Why would it be too much?

I know when I bought a used mac for use with morphos, the first week I bought it, the power died. Since it (the mac ) was cheap, I paid for the refurbished power supply.

With the amount of money I've spent on my amiga habit, I would pay those amounts, easy!

@AmigaKit
 please consider this idea for a new service!
 

Offline SACC-guyTopic starter

Re: refurbished or new power supplies
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2015, 06:28:49 PM »
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I'm not aware of anyone who advertises refurbished Amiga power supplies. It's not rocket science and I expect Amiga repair shops could fix power supplies also. I agree that the original type power supply has advantages.



NewEgg has an AT power supply at a reasonable price.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817338010&cm_re=AT_power_supply-_-17-338-010-_-Product
@matty
Thx for the info...it was very cheap but,

mechy says athena is iffy.

I don't want to risk my amiga!
 

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Re: refurbished or new power supplies
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2015, 06:59:06 PM »
Sorry, I guess I skimmed your post too quickly and missed that you are only looking for AT type power supplies.
 

Offline mechy

Re: refurbished or new power supplies
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2015, 07:25:00 PM »
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@matty
Thx for the info...it was very cheap but,

mechy says athena is iffy.

I don't want to risk my amiga!

i have had about a dozen of them, some were dead out of the box, some lasted 6 months and 2 of the bunch are still going. Seems to be really bad quality control on them.

I quit bothering with them since i was getting more bad than good.
A quality ATX works fine.
Mech
 

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Re: refurbished or new power supplies
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2015, 07:28:48 PM »
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@matty
Thx for the info...it was very cheap but,

mechy says athena is iffy.

I don't want to risk my amiga!


Read the reviews at newegg. Yea, Athena quality is not great but most people who bought their PSU were satisfied in the end (4/5 eggs). I bought one for a 4000T with burnt AT plug and haven't had any problems. It's probably better than salvaging an old PC supply with 20+ year old caps but probably not as good as a refurbished power supply with all new quality caps and professional workmanship and testing which would cost several times more.
 

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Re: refurbished or new power supplies
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2015, 07:29:16 PM »
Quote from: SACC-guy;790652
@mechy
Thx for the info and...

How much (IYO) is the price of labor? Why would it be too much?

I know when I bought a used mac for use with morphos, the first week I bought it, the power died. Since it (the mac ) was cheap, I paid for the refurbished power supply.

With the amount of money I've spent on my amiga habit, I would pay those amounts, easy!

@AmigaKit
 please consider this idea for a new service!

Time is always a problem for me, but its a pain in the butt soldering the old pigtails back in and such, not hard work just time consuming. I don't like to do it anymore really(i have been doing this stuff since 87'). I dont think i would do up a psu like this anymore for less than $150+ parts. I do them the proper way, i install the original amiga pigtail for power,the boards are mounted in the case with proper standoffs and a high quality noctua fan that is fairly quiet.It looks like the original psu when i am done,except for the molex pigtails being a different color wire(pc not amiga colors).
Its work to do it right and it costs a bit to start with a quality atx psu.
I have thought about making a trade out service like you mentioned, i have quite a few dead 4000 psu's
 

Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: refurbished or new power supplies
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2015, 07:36:33 PM »
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I have thought about making a trade out service like you mentioned, i have quite a few dead 4000 psu's

Go Mechy, get the shop back up and running!

(every time I think about something like this, I always think of the Blues Brothers "we're getting the band back together!")  :D
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Re: refurbished or new power supplies
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2015, 08:57:33 PM »
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Go Mechy, get the shop back up and running!

(every time I think about something like this, I always think of the Blues Brothers "we're getting the band back together!")  :D

You sir are a true 80's nut... i love it!

If only i had the energy lol.
 

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Re: refurbished or new power supplies
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2015, 02:28:37 AM »
Bring back the shop, still have my mechware scsi card reader ;-)

Anyway ATX PSU all the way, works fine in my A500 and A1200. Even a good Pico PSU works great.

Just don't by cheap and nasty :-)
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Re: refurbished or new power supplies
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2015, 01:34:53 PM »
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For about $80 US + shipping you can get a new power supply from this guy:

http://personalpages.tds.net/~rcarlsen/cbm/universal_ps/AMIGA/Amiga%20PS.jpg

Of course these are for A500, A600 & 1200.

I have 2 of his 64/128 power supplies and they work great!

Ray Carlsen makes excellent power supplies, specially for the C-64 and C-128 computers.
The one I am worried about is my trusty A1000. The A2000 I can deal with, but the A1000 will hard to find a power supply for if the old one dies. Maybe it can be repaired, but a replacement PSU will be hard to find.
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A1000 Microbotics Starboard II w/2Mb 1080, & external floppy (AIRdrive)
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Re: refurbished or new power supplies
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2015, 06:35:13 PM »
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Ray Carlsen makes excellent power supplies, specially for the C-64 and C-128 computers.
The one I am worried about is my trusty A1000. The A2000 I can deal with, but the A1000 will hard to find a power supply for if the old one dies. Maybe it can be repaired, but a replacement PSU will be hard to find.

Ray could more than likely fix the a1000 psu with no troubles. most of them are repairable,but seemed easier to swap boards out with slightly higher watt ones.