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Making MorphOS AmigaOS 4 like
« on: February 27, 2015, 01:23:00 PM »
I've heard a lot from people that they don't want to make a switch from AmigaOS 4 to MorphOS because of the "look and feel of the latter". So I thought about experimenting to see how close I can actually come to make MorphOS look and behave like AmigaOS 4.

But I don't own an AmigaOS 4 machine nor have much experience with one. So I want to ask the community about the things that are different. Things that an end user (potentionally) can change themselves.

Note: I'm not planning to start a flame war nor take this to a "MorphOS is superior" line of argument. I just want to see how far I can actually take this.
 

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Re: Making MorphOS AmigaOS 4 like
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2015, 01:49:46 PM »
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I've heard a lot from people that they don't want to make a switch from AmigaOS 4 to MorphOS because of the "look and feel of the latter". So I thought about experimenting to see how close I can actually come to make MorphOS look and behave like AmigaOS 4.


For me the feel is the difficult part of the equation. I tried but I could never make Ambient + MOS Shell feel similar to OS4 Workbench + VincED Shell.
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Re: Making MorphOS AmigaOS 4 like
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2015, 01:50:58 PM »
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For me the feel is the difficult part of the equation. I tried but I could never make Ambient + MOS Shell feel similar to OS4 Workbench + VincED Shell.


I will try to get as close as possible. Changing the icons and how prefs works will be easy. It's the rest I need help with.
 

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Re: Making MorphOS AmigaOS 4 like
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2015, 01:57:07 PM »
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For me the feel is the difficult part of the equation. I tried but I could never make Ambient + MOS Shell feel similar to OS4 Workbench + VincED Shell.


Making Ambient to feel like Workbench is very difficult. It is like trying to get Ferrari feel like Lada 1200.

But you can of course replace MorphOS shell with VincED.
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Re: Making MorphOS AmigaOS 4 like
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2015, 02:16:46 PM »
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Making Ambient to feel like Workbench is very difficult. It is like trying to get Ferrari feel like Lada 1200.

But you can of course replace MorphOS shell with VincED.


Like I said, I'm gonna try to get as close as possible. Without breaking anything. If people then still find MorphOS icky there is not much I can do :)

Thanks for the tip!
 

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Re: Making MorphOS AmigaOS 4 like
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2015, 02:31:15 PM »
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Like I said, I'm gonna try to get as close as possible. Without breaking anything. If people then still find MorphOS icky there is not much I can do :)

Thanks for the tip!

Installing KingCon is also possible and it is (was?) even possible to use Workbench 3.9.

I dont know how relevant that guide is to MorphOS 3.x because so much has changed and Odyssey uses Ambient default icons system.
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Re: Making MorphOS AmigaOS 4 like
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2015, 02:58:59 PM »
@Yasu

you might want to talk to @klesterjr about this. he's done work in the past on MUI themes, icons, ambient settings, etc. to get MOS to 'look and feel' like AOS4 better than i've seen others achieve so far.

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Re: Making MorphOS AmigaOS 4 like
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2015, 03:03:27 PM »
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@Yasu

you might want to talk to @klesterjr about this. he's done work in the past on MUI themes, icons, ambient settings, etc. to get MOS to 'look and feel' like AOS4 better than i've seen others achieve so far.

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Does he have a homepage about this?
 

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Re: Making MorphOS AmigaOS 4 like
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2015, 03:08:23 PM »
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Does he have a homepage about this?
unfortunately, no. IIRC there was some issue about him using the icons from AOS4 without approval or some such nonsense, but i could be remembering wrong. the best thing would be to PM him. ken is an awesome guy. if anyone can help, it'll be him.

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Re: Making MorphOS AmigaOS 4 like
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2015, 03:22:23 PM »
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unfortunately, no. IIRC there was some issue about him using the icons from AOS4 without approval or some such nonsense, but i could be remembering wrong. the best thing would be to PM him. ken is an awesome guy. if anyone can help, it'll be him.

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Yeah, last time I asked the Mason icons guy he said the same thing. But a lot of the icons are public domain fortunately.

I will PM him :)
 

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Re: Making MorphOS AmigaOS 4 like
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2015, 05:43:21 PM »
The easiest way to get your hands on the OS4 icons is to buy them on CD here:

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=47&products_id=1221

Unfortunately the icons are bundled with some useless stuff, but at least the price of less than 0,10 Euros/icon looks quite reasonable to me.

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Re: Making MorphOS AmigaOS 4 like
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2015, 06:25:24 PM »
I'm wondering how to make Amiga OS 4.x feel more like MorphOS. ;)
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Re: Making MorphOS AmigaOS 4 like
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2015, 10:25:00 PM »
I find that MorphOS looks horrible, feels nothing like an Amiga to me. I've spent hours trying to get it to feel right and got nowhere.
MorphOS has great bones, and in some cases has some nice features. Hardware support is better, but I can't use it. I find myself dual booting back to AmigaOS.

If someone came up with a good AmigaOS theme then I'd start using it more.
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Re: Making MorphOS AmigaOS 4 like
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2015, 01:13:52 AM »
Itix

Wasnt there an ambient "OS4" theme? Thought i had that somewhere..
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Re: Making MorphOS AmigaOS 4 like
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2015, 07:46:07 AM »
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I've heard a lot from people that they don't want to make a switch from AmigaOS 4 to MorphOS because of the "look and feel of the latter". So I thought about experimenting to see how close I can actually come to make MorphOS look and behave like AmigaOS 4.

But I don't own an AmigaOS 4 machine nor have much experience with one. So I want to ask the community about the things that are different. Things that an end user (potentionally) can change themselves.

Note: I'm not planning to start a flame war nor take this to a "MorphOS is superior" line of argument. I just want to see how far I can actually take this.

Sounds like a fun project, Yasu. :) Hope you'll make a post on your blog about it with info on how you did it.

Read his blog here guys: https://morphosuser.wordpress.com/

I don't know if it is of any help, but there are two AmigaOS 4 icon packs on the Amiga Look website. Those are in .PNG, so should work fine with MorphOS.