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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #494 from previous page: April 04, 2015, 06:24:22 PM »
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I guess it's a good thing HE isn't bankrupt anymore, but I'm still worried. Remember all the years the dev team told people Warp3D is dead and Gullium is coming with the upcoming 4.2. Now, A-Eon is paying to port Warp3D to the HD cards (kudos to that!). THAT can't be a good sign.

Not to piss on anyones parade here, but maybe the state of 4.2 is a lot worse that people think.


I doubt it. Warp3D was ordered long ago.
 

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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #495 on: April 04, 2015, 08:23:49 PM »
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I doubt it. Warp3D was ordered long ago.


Really? I remember when Daytona asked for missing functions to Warp3D on Hyperion forum and Solie closed the threads with the words that it was obsolete thanks to Gallium.

I mean, if Gallium is close enough to finished, then why do you need Warp3D?
 

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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #496 on: April 04, 2015, 11:42:01 PM »
Warp3D is NOT a Hyperion product.
 

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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #497 on: April 05, 2015, 07:12:18 AM »
I think Yasu's point was that Gallium3D/Mesa was announced back in 2010.
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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #498 on: April 05, 2015, 11:05:49 AM »
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Warp3D is NOT a Hyperion product.


What Yasu meant Trevor D. would not invest money in buying and updating of Warp3D if 4.2. with MESA/Gallium would be around the corner. Because simple it would be pure waste of money.
 

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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #499 on: April 05, 2015, 11:46:02 AM »
Yes, that was my point as BSzili and Olaf3 said.
 

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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #500 on: April 05, 2015, 01:38:11 PM »
WHAT??  Hyperion is bankrupt?  When did that happen?
 

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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #501 on: April 05, 2015, 03:08:51 PM »
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Warp3D is NOT a Hyperion product.

It was, for about a decade. And it was declared dead by the two programmers behind it, about a decade ago.

Stop trying to rewrite history. They don't have the manpower to port a modern 3D system, so OS 4.1 is stuck with Warp 3D for now. that' not nice, but it's understandable. No need to claim that THE TROLLS DO NOT CONTROL THE AIRPORT.
 

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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #502 on: April 05, 2015, 06:24:53 PM »
No one is trying to rewrite history, who owned warp3D a decade ago is irrelevant to its current status, which is, it is not a Hyperion product and it is not dead.

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No need to claim that THE TROLLS DO NOT CONTROL THE AIRPORT.
what does that even mean?

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What Yasu meant Trevor D. would not invest money in buying and updating of Warp3D if 4.2. with MESA/Gallium would be around the corner. Because simple it would be pure waste of money.
That makes no sense, ofcourse some one can invest in one technology even though an other is announced. Warp3D has been a big item on many AOS4's wishlist, surely making that come to life, could be reason enough.

I am not saying anything about the current state of AOS4.2 or Gallium, I am just saying, that speculating on AOS4.2's failure to deliver based on new Warp3D drivers being released, is reading to much into it.
 

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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #503 on: April 05, 2015, 06:52:32 PM »
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No one is trying to rewrite history, who owned warp3D a decade ago is irrelevant to its current status, which is, it is not a Hyperion product and it is not dead.

 what does that even mean?


That makes no sense, ofcourse some one can invest in one technology even though an other is announced. Warp3D has been a big item on many AOS4's wishlist, surely making that come to life, could be reason enough.

I am not saying anything about the current state of AOS4.2 or Gallium, I am just saying, that speculating on AOS4.2's failure to deliver based on new Warp3D drivers being released, is reading to much into it.


Regarding Gutjahr read the newest blog of Trevor (expecially the "Troll" part)

It was already my guess when update of Warp3D was announced (I even predicted that at that time). It makes most sense if you have some insight view and know that 4.2 will not be available in foreseeable future and want to have Warp3D as a kind of quick solution. Otherwise it would be wasting money and I do not think that Trevor would do that. But it is of course just speculation. We cannot know and those who know propably are not allowed to speak :). It is not a guess if 4.2 will be ever reality or not but that 4.2 is still far away.
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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #504 on: April 05, 2015, 07:12:42 PM »
@ OlafS3

The original announcement of Warp3D for Radeon HD was made two and a half years ago so it is difficult for me to speculate. Also even with 4.2 and gallium will the older 3D software run as is or wont it still need Warp3D  ?
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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #505 on: April 12, 2015, 05:13:09 PM »
A statement from Hyperions homepage:

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The company is in the process of reorganizing itself by opening up its shareholdership and appointing a new exective director. More details on that will follow when all legal formalities are behind us.

What does this mean exactly?
 

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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #506 on: April 12, 2015, 05:32:58 PM »
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A statement from Hyperions homepage:

What does this mean exactly?

it means someone ponied up some money to invest in hyperion and will be added as a director. the announcement will come shortly.

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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #507 on: April 12, 2015, 06:31:28 PM »
i have a guess who that might be
 

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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #508 on: April 12, 2015, 06:36:10 PM »
My guess is you. :)

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i have a guess who that might be
 

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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #509 on: April 12, 2015, 06:54:33 PM »
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My guess is you. :)


Huh? :)