Hyperion bankrupt?

[ChaosLord]

sure does!

Nope....  use OS4.1FE Classic...
EAB is sooooo chock full of info on how to emulate PPC on WinUAE and running  OS4.1FE it's not funny! :lol:

That is just totally crazy! :crazy:

I just fell out of a timewarp.

The last time I read EAB the coders were all like Commander Adama 'No PPC Emulation while I am in command of this ship!'.  They were all like 'ppc is useless.  We will never have that.'  But now you are saying they allow PPC emu?  And is it any good?  How fast is it?  How compatible?

Holy crap you have exploded my brain!!!!


p.s. once again there is no appropriate smiley for how I am feeling at this moment.

[ChaosLord]

There never was 68k version of OS4. It's been PPC always, except some 68k components...

Ah yes you are right!  I am sorry!  I got mixed up.  I was thinking of the v4.0 of OS4 that runs on Classic hardware.  Like an A1200 with a PPC card.  I call that OS4 Classic.  (but it never had anything to do with 680x0).

[giZmo350]

That is just totally crazy! :crazy:

I just fell out of a timewarp.

The last time I read EAB the coders were all like Commander Adama 'No PPC Emulation while I am in command of this ship!'.  They were all like 'ppc is useless.  We will never have that.'  But now you are saying they allow PPC emu?  And is it any good?  How fast is it?  How compatible?

Holy crap you have exploded my brain!!!!


p.s. once again there is no appropriate smiley for how I am feeling at this moment.

Most peeps (that like it) say to use a hefty Intel i7...
I have an 8GB i5 that I want to try it on.... just gotta get it on order! I was just gonna post AmigaKit's link to the product but they are now out of stock! I HATE ME sometimes!

@AmigaKit... please don't say that you won't get anymore!


HAHAHAHA! I love it when MiggyPeeps discover something new!
P.S. Glad you're feeling better ChaosLord!

[Yasu]

Question: _IF_ Hyperion stays bankrupt, what will happen to AOS 4? AFAIK there are some clauses with Amiga Inc. that makes the whole thing complicated.

Can someone shed some light into this topic?

[Kremlar]

Remember that every X1000 is different, assembled bespoke to the customer's order with care. This is not a low cost budget PC that is quickly thrown together.  

What's different?  Different video card, amount of RAM, hard drive or SSD?  How does that add to the assembly time of a system?  Each X1000 has the same motherboard, processor and chassis (white/black), so if anything I would think that would make them QUICKER to assemble.

When building a random cheap PC there are always variables that can't be accounted for unless you are using the same motherboard and chassis over and over again.

How long does it take to mount the motherboard in the chassis?  Mount a hard drive?  Plug in some RAM and a video card?

Now, the software portion of the process might take some time, and apparently the shipping process, but I imagine you guys have done a lot of AmigaOS 4 systems.  Since the variables are so few I would imagine you guys would have the process down pat by now.

Unless the failure rate of motherboards, CPUs or the other components is high it really shouldn't take that long to assemble and install the OS and drivers.

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Most peeps (that like it) say to use a hefty Intel i7...
I have an 8GB i5 that I want to try it on.... just gotta get it on order! I was just gonna post AmigaKit's link to the product but they are now out of stock! I HATE ME sometimes!

@AmigaKit... please don't say that you won't get anymore!

Dang!  I just put that in my shopping cart on their site last night, too, and now I see it's gone.  

You know, there's a funny correlation to goth clubs here in the Washington, DC, area, in all this.  Everybody always attends the first night of a new club, and the last night.  And then they say "Man, this club is so great, why is it closing?"  Well maybe if people had attended any of the other nights, it would've made enough money to stay open.

Amiga is like that.  Maybe if we'd ordered our copies of 4.1 FE Classic a month ago, Hyperion would've had enough money to stay afloat.  *sigh*

[amigakit]

Please pre order now from us and we will get more next week.  Thanks.

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Please pre order now from us and we will get more next week.  Thanks.

Could you post a link for Classic?  It's not coming up on the search anymore.  Just the other versions:

[amigakit]

Here you go:

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1222

[giZmo350]

Thanks AmigaKit! Just ordered my OS4.1FE PPC Classic and a TrueIDE w/2 CF cards!

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

+1!  Don't know when I'll have time to play with it, but it'll be a good conversation piece, right?  LOL  :lol:

[giZmo350]

+1!  Don't know when I'll have time to play with it, but it'll be a good conversation piece, right?  LOL  :lol:

@OM....

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

@OM....

Awwww

[amigakit]

Thanks guys !

[giZmo350]

Thanks guys !

NO! Thank YOU AmigaKit! It's very rare these days that a vendor such as yourself takes the time to help their customers on an active website (even though it's yours) :lol:

[Rob]

Question: _IF_ Hyperion stays bankrupt, what will happen to AOS 4? AFAIK there are some clauses with Amiga Inc. that makes the whole thing complicated.

Can someone shed some light into this topic?

If you wish to speculate you might want to familiarise yourself with the settlement agreement.

https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0BxlY9g_OfLqDZTQyNGFkYzEtZDI5Zi00YzcxLThhODYtODcyZTg0M2I4MzQ1&hl=en

Two things I gleaned from it are;

1.  Transfer of the licenses requires approval of the Amiga Inc.

2.  The Agreement also affords the same rights it does to Hyperion to any parent or successor of Hyperion or any transferee.  This suggests that outright purchase of Hyperion may not require any formal approval from Amiga Inc in order to exercise the rights granted to Hyperion in the agreement.

I don't claim to be any authority on this and others may interpret it differently.

Personally I don't think it's really worth worrying about for now.  My X1000 still functions, A-EON are still working on the software they have promised and OS development is still ongoing.

Aside from a possible shortage of retail copies of OS4.1FE nothing has changed on the ground for now.

If Hyperion's appeal does fail in may be of concern to us but until such a time the status quo is maintained.