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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #119 on: February 14, 2015, 07:43:49 PM »
@Darrin,

Nice pick! Would give me a run for the money, unless the roads are wet. :)

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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #120 on: February 14, 2015, 07:44:45 PM »
Wow, I don't get the problem some of you have. In 2013 I bought a Amiga 4000 that had only 3 months of use. I fact the keyboard is still in the commodore bag and has never been taken out. I have the receipt from 1993 when it was bought. That Amiga 4000 was almost $3,500 (like spending $6000 on a computer today). That is in 1993 and the Amiga 4000 was NOT as fast as many, many computers for sale in 1993. Feb 5th 2015 I received my X1000 from Amigakit and I am VERY happy with it. I paid less than a Amiga 4000/30 was back in 1993 by $500. It's a hobby OS and platform. If you are not into it then stop telling everyone  Quote:
"you'll have a hard time convincing anyone of the merits of OS4 and the X1000". Its 2015 and at Amigakit the price is $200 less that  when I placed my order before Christmas. It's now $2709.37, $800 less that a Amiga A4000 over 20 years ago. My first Amiga was in 2013, I never owned one before and now I own 13 of them + my new A-Eon AmigaOne X1000. I will also buy a AmigaOne X5000 as well. I love the OS and A-EON & Amigakit and all the others that work so hard. THANKS
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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #121 on: February 14, 2015, 07:45:34 PM »
Quote from: Darrin;784096
I'm driving around West Texas in a rental Hyundai right now.  On the 18th my new 2015 Mustang gets delivered from the Ford factory.  I know which one I'm going to enjoy more (not that this Hyundai SUV isn't bad for a work vehicle).  ;)

Nice choice! But I wouldn't give up my Nissan 350Z for anything!
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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #122 on: February 14, 2015, 07:46:04 PM »
The End is near..
 

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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #123 on: February 14, 2015, 07:49:29 PM »
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Nice choice! But I wouldn't give up my Nissan 350Z for anything!


That's a nice looking car.  Does it come in a soft-top?  I like my convertibles.  I want to feel the wind rushing through my hair while I still have hair! :D

Edit:  I see it does!  Very nice.  Nowhere to put the kids though.
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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #124 on: February 14, 2015, 07:49:57 PM »
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It was an impressive hardware design more than 10 years ago, but certainly not today and especially not with a $3,000 price tag.  Unlike the original Amiga, the X1000 has neither a hardware or price advantage.   Its only real selling point is that it is able to run Amiga OS4, which is only an advantage when selling to die-hard Amiga fans as even Linux can do more than it.  And why buy an X1000 to use Linux when you can by a more powerful PC for less than 1/3 the price of an X1000?


Linux can always do more on any hardware, that is a rule with few exceptions these days, but it doesn't prevent me from enjoying other operating systems as well.

My subjective comment regarding X1000's impressive hardware design was specifically within the PowerPC architecture. The idea of bringing the XMOS chipset into the mix (Xena), that Xorro port with all those GPIO pins just waiting for new hardware project ideas which runs independently from the CPU (I'm drooling just thinking about it). I never claimed that X1000 outperforms current PC hardware. Also, having used Linux on PowerPC in the past I can tell you that there is special kind of feeling you get compared to any kind of x86/x64 based architecture, it's just smooth and without lag even when the system is under load. I haven't tried AmigaOS 4.x on X1000 specifically, but considering it's less bloated than Linux I assume it is really fast.

Thinking of performance, even my A1200 boots WB 3.1 faster than any modern OS on the latest PC tech, it even boots faster than my phone, so in that aspect it outperforms everything else. ;)


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Your argument is like telling someone who paid $30,000 for a Harley Davidson that he should have bout at $15,000 Kia because the Car has 4 wheels and airbags.  You're missing the point that the guy wanted a motorbike.  :D


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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #125 on: February 14, 2015, 07:52:10 PM »
Quote from: Darrin;784103
That's a nice looking car.  Does it come in a soft-top?  I like my convertibles.  I want to feel the wind rushing through my hair while I still have hair! :D

Edit:  I see it does!  Very nice.  Nowhere to put the kids though.

Sure does! The new Z model is now the 370Z but me no likey the look.
Posi-track BABY! That's what I'm talkin bout! :lol:
Right, it's a 2 seater - I've owned a 2 seater of some sort since 1984!
Oh, and about 7 Z's!

Sorry.... OT.... Back to Hyperion.....
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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #126 on: February 14, 2015, 07:57:24 PM »
Quote from: Darrin;784089
.  Meanwhile, there are options for everybody's price range, starting at UAE+OS4 and going up to X1000+OS4.


?????

Are you saying UAE runs OS4?
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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #127 on: February 14, 2015, 08:02:35 PM »
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My first Amiga was in 2013, I never owned one before and now I own 13 of them + my new A-Eon AmigaOne X1000. I will also buy a AmigaOne X5000 as well. I love the OS and A-EON & Amigakit and all the others that work so hard. THANKS


You are a wonderful person and a very kewl dude! :buddies:



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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #128 on: February 14, 2015, 08:02:36 PM »
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?????

Are you saying uae runs os4?

sure does! :)
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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #129 on: February 14, 2015, 08:03:03 PM »
@apsturk

Thanks for the order of the AmigaONE X1000 - it was very much appreciated.  I hope you are having fun with it.  We will have some nice software announcements in May for your X1000 :)

The reason the price has gone down is that the US Dollar has gone down recently against the GBP so this has made the price cheaper.

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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #130 on: February 14, 2015, 08:05:30 PM »
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sure does! :)


Why does Multiquote never ever ever ever work for me?

I guess we are talking about the 680x0 version of OS4 that Hyperion ceased development of  at v4.0?  Is that correct?
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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #131 on: February 14, 2015, 08:07:52 PM »
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Why does Multiquote never ever ever ever work for me?

I guess we are talking about the 680x0 version of OS4 that Hyperion ceased development of  at v4.0?  Is that correct?

Nope....  use OS4.1FE Classic... :)
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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #132 on: February 14, 2015, 08:12:44 PM »
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I guess we are talking about the 680x0 version of OS4 that Hyperion ceased development of  at v4.0?  Is that correct?


There never was 68k version of OS4. It's been PPC always, except some 68k components...
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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #133 on: February 14, 2015, 08:12:51 PM »
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a basic Amiga without all of those co-processors...

They were basically gouging their Amiga customers.  They upgraded the computers from an Agnus chip to Fat Agnes, updated the operating system and charged more for all those updates and it alienated customers because it put customers on a faster pace to buy...

Think about this: You just bought an Amiga, it was an expense and six months later, Commodore upgrades it.  You're catering to a select few and alienating everyone else.

Man, what is this crazy-talk?  The problem with the Amiga was that Commodore didn't upgrade it enough!  Upper management was too busy sucking the coffers dry on private jets, and not spending enough on R&D or engineering.  The Amiga was revolutionary for it's time *because of the custom chips*.   To remove those you'd take away everything that made it unique, and make something wholly incompatible, since the system relied on those chips, in any case.  And everything after that was a stop-gap, they had no more revolutions.  Even AGA came out three years too late, by 1992 it's capabilities were already surpassed by every games machine and computer on the market.

Would you prefer they'd never upgraded?  Never released any new products?  Just sat stagnant with the original designs from 1985?  They'd have never made into the '90s, let alone still be interesting to hobbyists today.

Anyhow, TL;DR, completely irrelevant to the discussion about Hyperion.  Bye!
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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #134 from previous page: February 14, 2015, 08:18:26 PM »
Quote from: gizmo350;784110
sure does! :)


Quote from: gizmo350;784113
Nope....  use OS4.1FE Classic... :)
EAB is sooooo chock full of info on how to emulate PPC on WinUAE and running  OS4.1FE it's not funny! :lol:


That is just totally crazy! :crazy:

I just fell out of a timewarp.

The last time I read EAB the coders were all like Commander Adama 'No PPC Emulation while I am in command of this ship!'.  They were all like 'ppc is useless.  We will never have that.'  But now you are saying they allow PPC emu?  And is it any good?  How fast is it?  How compatible?

Holy crap you have exploded my brain!!!!


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