Hyperion bankrupt?

[Terminills]

Hopefully it will be open sourced. Is this a possibility?

No it isn't possible.  Hyperion own a license to modify not ownership.

[cpaek72]

Well, Amigakit just wrote this back to me. Not sure If I will ever buy anything form Amigakit again, only because they are willing to sell a product knowing full well that the operating system it was built for has gone bankrupt. I just responded to them for a full refund immediately.

Hello Charles,

Your system has been being built this week, it takes a few days to assemble the system and install the software and quality test it before dispatch.  It is almost completely assembled now.

The AmigaONE X1000 is from A-EON Technology, not Hyperion.  A-EON has not gone bankrupt.

[cpaek72]

If Trevor buys all the assets for OS4 and continues development I'm willing to give it a chance, but there is no way I'm going to have the x1000 sent to me with this currently going on. Amigakit is pretty unbelievable. I know they probably need my money, but that's really crossing the ethical line and looking the other way. Am I overreacitng?

[giZmo350]

Am I overreacitng?

Yup.......

[cpaek72]

How's that Gizmo? Can you explain?

[guest11527]

Am I overreacitng?

At this point - likely. Just because a company is insolvent does not mean that it is going out of business. It is, however, a good indication that something is wrong with their business model. That, however, is probably old news.  

Thus, if you expected a brilliant new fancy Os on a brilliant new powerful shiny hardware, I believe you were wrong to begin with. On the other hand, if you expected a hobby system you can play with, then that won't go away regardless of Hyperion being in or out of business. Development will always be slow, and the whole system will never be mainstream anyhow. It's not that Hyperion was fast in delivering bugfixes or a stable Os in first place - how could they with all the limited man power, no surprise, and I don't even have bad feelings about this. It is pretty much what you should expect if you invest in such a system. Which is, quite frankly, the reason why I don't... I don't get the point for my use cases. But it's your hobby, and I certainly don't want to talk you out of it.

[Darrin]

but that's really crossing the ethical line and looking the other way. Am I overreacitng?

I think that all depends on whether they know something that we don't and just can't state it at this moment in time.  When you're spending a lot of cash on a computer then I don't blame you for wanting to know what support you're going to get for both the hardware and OS.  I really like my X1000, but I'm certainly watching events here with more than just casual interest.

I'm going to wait for official statements from the real parties involved here.  We can speculate all day (god knows we've all done that over the years over various subjects), but I'm going to wait for some hard facts posted in public by reliable parties.

[Terminills]

but I'm going to wait for some hard facts posted in public by reliable parties.

Who would that be?  I would think the Belgian government would be pretty "official"

[OlafS3]

How's that Gizmo? Can you explain?

I would say that too. The OS itself is still running like before and will continue to do so. The driver support is from A-eon anyway. The only thing affected is how will development be after "Final Edition" but it was said already that nobody should wait for it (4.2). So if your interest is to use AmigaOS and you can afford it then go for it.

[cpaek72]

Look, I never expected the service to be like buying from Dell or Apple. And yes, I did know full well  that what I was getting into. But the fact is that the computer hasn't shipped and I'm asking for a refund from Amigakit and Amigakit is saying, "Hey, the os doesn't matter, A-eon is great and we have the system almost fully built." The money is not an issue, otherwise I wouldn't have purchased it. I purchased the system, because I wanted it and that's how these things go, but I never received it. I am asking for a refund and they are giving me the runaround. This is not about if I deserve this because I should have known what i got myself into, it's about if Amigakit is right to refuse my cancellation.

[Darrin]

Who would that be?  I would think the Belgian government would be pretty "official"

Well, it would be someone like Hyperion themselves, or A-EON or Amigakit.  As opposed to those posting guesses based on their biased positions on personal wishes.

[amigakit]

@cpaek72

An AmigaONE X1000 takes many hours for us to assemble, install OS, RadeonHD and other drivers and then configure to the customer's exact requirements of their order.  Its a custom built computer, carefully hand assembled with care- not a system that rolls off a production line.

This is the process that your system has been through this week.  Every system gets quality control tested then for a few days to ensure there are no issues on delivery due to the logistics of shipping such a large package around the world.

The system is from A-EON Technology and is supplied with full warranty.  Hyperion's arrangements do not affect warranty or functionality.  A-EON has invested heavily in software for the AmigaONE X1000 and will continue to do so in future.  AMIStore is a large commitment and some exciting software releases are due in May for existing X1000 customers.  None of this investment comes from Hyperion or is affected by Hyperion.

I will ever buy anything form Amigakit again

That's of course disappointing.

[giZmo350]

How's that Gizmo? Can you explain?

Without trying to come off flippint and with all due respect, you're not conducting business with Hyperion. You're conducting business with AmigaKit. Again with no disrespect towards your intentions, you seem angry and that anger, IMHO, is misdirected. AmigaKit is a very reputable company.

Arggg! I must go for now and shovel more snow... c'mon spring!

[klx300r]

@ cpaek72

trust me when I say you want Amigakit to take their time assembling and stress testing your new custom made X1000 to make sure it's 100% when it arrives at your house.  It's a big stress to package it up and send it back across the pond so let them make sure it's right

PM sent.

[cgutjahr]

you're not conducting business with Hyperion. You're conducting business with AmigaKit.

He's buying a ridiculously expensive product who's only reason for existance is "it is running AmigaOS". Now the company funding further OS4 development seems to be in severe trouble. Rethinking his decision to buy a X1000 makes sense, IMHO. Personally, I don't think OS4's situation has changed much, but if he comes to a different conclusion...

And depending on how much Amigakit/A-EON know, at least their claims that the system would include AmigaOS 4.2 and multicore support one day might have been... unfortunate.

[Darrin]

@ cpaek72

trust me when I say you want Amigakit to take their time assembling and stress testing your new custom made X1000 to make sure it's 100% when it arrives at your house.  It's a big stress to package it up and send it back across the pond so let them make sure it's right

PM sent.

That's so true.

Wait until you see the way it is packed!  I think a tank could have run over the box without denting the X1000 inside due to all of the padding.