PCMIA ethernet network A1200 - OS 3.5?

[Ayashoka]

I'm looking for a way to hook up my old A1200 to my lil' iMac trough a ethernet network.

I've found the CNET pcmia drivers at Aminet, accompanied by the list of cards to use.
So that would cover most.

Only i still need a TCP/IP thing.
I'm thinking about getting OS 3.5, would that do the trick and can i use the CNET device with it???
Could i access HD's from both sides, or would i need additional software???

From mac side i'll cook something up with Samba or OS X, still advice would be appreciated.

I know i kinda got all the answers in front of me, but... :-?

[sarkis]

 
os 3.5 has miami bundled with it.. it was to be a full version but............it is not ..it has a time limit of a  half hour then a warning and another half hour of use..
Strange about all the comments on piracy.. what about being sold a demo as a full version? Strange no?.. hooking up two with a an ethernet cable called ..crossover
that connects two computers like a null modem cable would..
the directions would come from miami docs as to how configure the two.
regards
sarkis

[mikeymike]

Oops, was going to give pointers to the driver download then realised after I posted.  So this is a completely useless reply.

[Ayashoka]

Sarkis - os 3.5 has miami bundled with it.. it was to be a full version but............it is not ..it has a time limit of a half hour then a warning and another half hour of use..

So OS 3.5 has no 'full-time' TCP stack???

Yikes... and OS 3.9 is a bit to much cash on the old girl..:-(    at least if you keep my system in mind.

[gnarly]

Check out http://www.amigasamba.org/

[BouncingAyatollah]

I use OS3.9/Genesis to do this, running Samba on the Amiga side to either WinBloat or RedHat+Samba on the PC side.

You can get various tools to use on the Amiga side to access the other HDs, e.g. I use Tango, there are also things like smb-handler. In practice though, if you set up shares to be read/write you'll probably use the nicer GUI'ed/faster machine to do all the copying.

If you use CNET device I am sure you need a reset fix done or the clip-on fix for the PCMCIA port, when I was having trouble with Hydra I was considering CNET and the aforementioned clip-on but then found a way around the problems I was having.

OS 3.9 is better than OS 3.5, as 3.5 had quite a few problems in the final execution.
Go for OS 3.9 if I were you. It's under £30 now, and they're flogging copies for about £15 each on Amibench.

[Ayashoka]

To be honest... as a student i don't have much cash...
and the old girl.... to make it anywhere a decent machine will cost me about 400E (tower, 040) and then i haven't mentioned the graphics yet...
I don't use it that much.
For what i wanted to spend OS3.5 just about covers it... OS 3.9  (...) the money isn't earned back at the moment.

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I will check amibench, and look for a PCMIA card,
then i'll see what to do.
I know know i need a TCP/IP stack OR OS3.9, samba on both sides and if using a pc card CNET device.

Thanks  for your advice guys (BTW suggestions are still welcome)

[SteWhite]

Actually, you do not need a hardware reset fix any more - There are
software tools that will do the job just as well, providing you do not
need to attempt to boot from a network drive.

All you need is CardReset (from Aminet) in your Startup-Sequence just
before LoadWB.

I have been using this solution on my non-reset-fixed A1200 for ages
now without any problems.

[BouncingAyatollah]

All you need is CardReset (from Aminet) in your Startup-Sequence just

Yeah, I heard this and tried the two software reset fixes at the time, but I was having all sorts of problems.

As I recall (probably not that well) the card itself would be recognised with CNET device in the PCMCIA slot itself and not the Hydra adapter and one of the other parts of the software would try to reset it every time it was used, the software fixes reset it at boot (either the latest CNET device or one of the TCP stacks I tried).

One of the TCP stacks would just bomb out Opening hydrapcm.device if I used the Hydra adapter... and so on. Not much fun taking cards and Hydra adapter in and out of a PCMCIA v-adapter, wondering how many more changes I could get before a pin went Ping!

Finally I found Genesis did the trick with the Hydra in place, just worked first time.

[Ilwrath]

To be honest... as a student i don't have much cash...
and the old girl.... to make it anywhere a decent machine will cost me about 400E (tower, 040) and then i haven't mentioned the graphics yet...
I don't use it that much.

I certainly understand that, but I don't understand what that has to do with OS3.9.  It'll run as crisply as OS3.5, as they're very similiar.  And 3.9 does come with Genesis, which is one of the better TCP/IP stacks available.  

Of course, if you are very sadistic, there is still a free TCP/IP stack available for Amiga.....
AmiTCP 2.2 Binary is available from Aminet.  Theoretically, it should work with the CNET.device.  On the downside, it's really old, though.  But just think...  It'll give you an appreciation of how lousy networking was back in the bad old days before DHCP was common, and a GUI for a network stack was unheard of.  It'll give you experience hacking together a bunch of completely bizarre and archiac configuration files in a hideous exercise in futility.  NOTE:  I'm NOT recommending attempting this, but it IS an option, if money really is the largest determining factor.

[Ayashoka]

I certainly understand that, but I don't understand what that has to do with OS3.9. It'll run as crisply as OS3.5, as they're very similiar.

Sorry-i meant that with my current outfit i found the machine just not worth getting OS 3.9, thus i opted for the half-cost OS 3.5 and mentioned the upgrading.
The whole thread should have been called Amiga->Mac pcmia link

On the downside, it's really old, though. But just think... It'll give you an appreciation of how lousy networking was back in the bad old days before DHCP was common, and a GUI for a network stack was unheard of. It'll give you experience hacking together a bunch of completely bizarre and archiac configuration files in a hideous exercise in futility. NOTE: I'm NOT recommending attempting this, but it IS an option, if money really is the largest determining factor.

Sounds like fun :-D   I'll check it out.