FS: D-UAE Dedicated Amiga Emulation Station 2nd Gen w/ AmigaOS 4.1

[giZmo350]

Perhaps contacting and discussing ideas would be better served by talking to those he mentioned instead of direct contact with Hyperion.

#6

I don't think doing an end-around on Hyperion would be such a good idea.

TCMSLP hit the nail squarely on the head! Read between the lines of his post... try to understand how Hyperion does business (and that's not a statement regarding Hyperion, it's a statement regarding "business"). Realistically, for C64MAN to continue reselling AOS4.X he would have to become a "partner" with, not only Hyperion, but those who Hyperion partners with. There's a "chain" of businesses here. The "chain" of businesses simply cannot be held responsible for how their product performs on C64MAN's machines. If even "one" disappointment came back to one of the "authorized resellers/supporters", with how AOS4.x performs on C64MAN's machines - or even requests for general support, or something like "I want my OS4.X product money back" (more than likely on a Amiga user forum), would start a $h!tstorm for all involved in that "chain of business". Well, enough of that... just learn a little something about the business world. Simply put, Hyperion doesn't want to support C64MAN's product. It has nothing to do with the "personal feelings" of the end user/consumer. [DISCLAIMER ON]And no, I'm not a representative for Hyperion or trying to be a smarty-pants[/DISCLAIMER OFF]

[number6]

I don't think doing an end-around on Hyperion would be such a good idea.

TCMSLP hit the nail squarely on the head! Read between the lines of his post... try to understand how Hyperion does business (and that's not a statement regarding Hyperion, it's a statement regarding "business"). Realistically, for C64MAN to continue reselling AOS4.X he would have to become a "partner" with, not only Hyperion, but those who Hyperion partners with. There's a "chain" of businesses here. The "chain" of businesses simply cannot be held responsible for how their product performs on C64MAN's machines. If even "one" disappointment came back to one of the "authorized resellers/supporters", with how AOS4.x performs on C64MAN's machines - or even requests for general support, or something like "I want my OS4.X product money back" (more than likely on a Amiga user forum), would start a $h!tstorm for all involved in that "chain of business". Well, enough of that... just learn a little something about the business world. Simply put, Hyperion doesn't want to support C64MAN's product. It has nothing to do with the "personal feelings" of the end user/consumer. [DISCLAIMER ON]And no, I'm not a representative for Hyperion or trying to be a smarty-pants[/DISCLAIMER OFF]

Who said anything about an "end-around"? And this is a general posting, directed at the thread, not at C64MAN or his projects specifically by any stretch.
These (the people listed) are his (Ben Herman's) advisors...his technical and financial (as in funding) advisors.
If one of those he trusts brings a project to his attention it will carry more weight than an unknown individual approaching Hyperion directly.

#6

[Duce]

It is not uncommon for companies to use "authorized resellers only" policies with their products.  Even Microsoft has different support functionality on OEM versions of software versus retail/box SKU's.

In a case like this, it seems heavy handed.  On the other hand, Customer X buys an OS4.1 FE emulation system off an ebay/internet seller, has issues with the OS.  The Seller, again, not an "authorized partner" of Hyperion - may or may not be willing to, or even able to - provide a lick of help to said Customer X.  

Customer X goes to Hyperion (and likely the Internet as a whole), griping about how their software is crap and "doesn't work" or something.  It's pretty apparent why Hyperion would not want that.

I don't imagine Hyperion would want to be on the line for providing support for an unauthorized reseller.

[giZmo350]

Who said anything about an "end-around"? And this is a general posting, directed at the thread, not at C64MAN or his projects specifically by any stretch.
These (the people listed) are his (Ben Herman's) advisors...his technical and financial (as in funding) advisors.
If one of those he trusts brings a project to his attention it will carry more weight than an unknown individual approaching Hyperion directly.

#6

Of course it would be an "end around". You validate that by stating that the people on that list are "advisors".
 
 I'm pretty sure that Hyperion is representative of itself.
 
 The "cease and desist"  wasn't issued to C64MAN by anyone on that list. It came from Hyperion. And, the "letter" was sent to C64MAN not to "the thread".
 
 I understand your logic of possibly getting an "advisor" to take up a case to Hyperion, but Hyperion has sole discretion to represent itself.
 
 Hey, I'm not trying to advocate or discredit C64MAN - he could certainly pursue that avenue, but, um, errrr.... like Duce said.... Ugh, my brain hurts. :lol:

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

@thread

Source

#6

What the hell is up with that source?  I'm not a member of that forum and rarely (i.e., never) look at it, but all I see is post after post reading: "Edited by Mod:  This has been addressed"  Is it common on that forum for comments to be deleted/edited by mods in that way?  How is anyone supposed to what the original question even was?  Granted, it is Franko, so it's probably BS questions, but...  I dunno.  It just rubs me wrong.  

[Manu]

Hands up anyone who didn't see this coming. LOL!

I'm amazed you guys still after all these years haven't turned your back on them.

2005 is the year when I got fed up and thought "stuff it" .

I remember it like yesterday.

It was a huge relief

[number6]

What the hell is up with that source?  I'm not a member of that forum and rarely (i.e., never) look at it, but all I see is post after post reading: "Edited by Mod:  This has been addressed"  Is it common on that forum for comments to be deleted/edited by mods in that way?  How is anyone supposed to what the original question even was?  Granted, it is Franko, so it's probably BS questions, but...  I dunno.  It just rubs me wrong.  

My source link goes to a readable posting, the source of my quote. I realize it's difficult not to read further postings in such a thread, but my attempt was to point only to the words of the owner, to avoid 2nd or 3rd hand opinion on the topic.
Anyway, the entire thread without deletions was preserved for posterity, but I don't call the unedited version a healthy read really

#6

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

My source link goes to a readable posting, the source of my quote. I realize it's difficult not to read further postings in such a thread, but my attempt was to point only to the words of the owner, to avoid 2nd or 3rd hand opinion on the topic.
Anyway, the entire thread without deletions was preserved for posterity, but I don't call the unedited version a healthy read really

#6

LOL.  So much drama in our little scene.    Oh well, that's what I figured, anyway!  

[utri007]

Forget Aros, it's a dead end anyways? Nice little box, though I wonder who powefull it is.

http://os4depot.net/index.php?function=browse&cat=utility/benchmark

[OlafS3]

Forget Aros, it's a dead end anyways? Nice little box, though I wonder who powefull it is.

http://os4depot.net/index.php?function=browse&cat=utility/benchmark

Aros is a dead end? Explain that a little better because I do not understand you

BTW I run circles around your PPC box with my 68k environment

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

BTW I run circles around your PPC box with my 68k environment

This sounds like an elementary school playground.  My 20-year-old computer is faster than your 20-year-old computer.  Hehe.  :lol:

[Manu]

Aros is a dead end? Explain that a little better because I do not understand you

BTW I run circles around your PPC box with my 68k environment

Aros is the living dead, didn't you know Olaf ?

[Rob]

Aros is a dead end? Explain that a little better because I do not understand you

BTW I run circles around your PPC box with my 68k environment

I think he's just poking fun.

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=783245&postcount=19

[OlafS3]

you've got to be kidding. i love AOS4 and wouldn't go back to AOS3 for love nor money, but, honestly, what in the name of all that's holy are hyperion thinking?

"hmmm.... someone is developing a product that will provide us license fees. i know, let's send a cease and desist letter!" :lol:

-- eliyahu

and I would not go to "NG" for any money :lol:

[OlafS3]

Aros is the living dead, didn't you know Olaf ?

oh yes I forgot... :lol:

the most living undead in history

[OlafS3]

I am pleased to announce the launch of the D-UAE Dedicated Amiga Emulation Station Second Generation.  They come with an AmigaForever Plus Edition License,  WHDLoad License,  AmigaOS 4.1 License.  

You can hook these up to your HDTV with the included HDMI Adapter & cable.  

Heres the blog post about it

https://slandon110.wordpress.com/2015/02/03/the-next-generation-of-d-uae-dedicated-amiga-emulation-station/

simple advice as others already wrote... stay away from Hyperion