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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: 128megs on a CSA Derringer 030
« Reply #29 from previous page: February 03, 2015, 03:21:15 PM »
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1.) I'd need the A2000, the Accelerator, and the RAM.
2.) It would be much more productive to just go ahead and wire in 72pin SIMM sockets. Less connections, less of an unorthodox "ass-rig" and if the dram ever went bad, you'd be able to replace the SIMMs.
3.) You are talking about a VERY involved project. Not something worth writing up for others to easily attempt.
4.) Yes, any machine with at least a 68020 has a 32bit data bus and at least 4 gigs of physical address space. Its just a matter of designing the dram control/address circuits (or modding existing ones) to get the dram on the bus.
5.) I'd be willing to look at anything, and even attempt anything if price is no object, but unless theres already a standard simm socket there, the end result is not gonna be an easily repeatable "hack".

Ah, makes sense.  I don't know if anyone has ever managed to replace GVP SIMM sockets with standard ones?  You've given me something new to look into, thanks!  :)
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Re: 128megs on a CSA Derringer 030
« Reply #30 on: February 03, 2015, 10:03:26 PM »
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Avail shows largest block 16MB. I think that's normal.


Sysinfo shows largest block 65MB. I tested it. Created 28MB lha archive in ram:. Without errors. Tested the archive. Without errors. Nice.

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Re: 128megs on a CSA Derringer 030
« Reply #31 on: February 04, 2015, 12:29:59 AM »
I did some software work for CSA on the MMR. I had a version that supported 2MB of SRAM. I suspect that it was a simple hack like the dram...

512k x8 srams are the same 32-pin dip as the regular 128k x8. should just be a matter of wiring in two extra address lines.
 

Offline mechy

Re: 128megs on a CSA Derringer 030
« Reply #32 on: February 04, 2015, 01:27:17 AM »
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Ah, makes sense.  I don't know if anyone has ever managed to replace GVP SIMM sockets with standard ones?  You've given me something new to look into, thanks!  :)

they have ;)

http://aminet.net/package/docs/hard/gvpsim64
gvp simms are wired quite different than typical 72 pin simms but its possible to adapt it.
 

Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: 128megs on a CSA Derringer 030
« Reply #33 on: February 04, 2015, 06:36:28 AM »
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they have ;)

http://aminet.net/package/docs/hard/gvpsim64
gvp simms are wired quite different than typical 72 pin simms but its possible to adapt it.

I found that this morning, actually.  Too bad most of the instructions/pictures are in French.  Ah, FML!  :laughing:
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Re: 128megs on a CSA Derringer 030
« Reply #34 on: February 15, 2015, 12:48:48 PM »
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I got my 128meg SIMM from Mech of a4000t.com


What is he type of the chips on your 128MB SIMM? Could you make a photo?

Thanx

J.
 

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Re: 128megs on a CSA Derringer 030
« Reply #35 on: February 15, 2015, 05:00:29 PM »
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Re: 128megs on a CSA Derringer 030
« Reply #36 on: February 19, 2015, 07:47:36 PM »
Hmm, your memory chips are for 3.3V like mine too. Do you think
they can manage 5V too? I did not have problems with mine yet, but there
is duscussion on other forums that 5V can destroy them.

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Re: 128megs on a CSA Derringer 030
« Reply #37 on: February 24, 2015, 04:51:01 PM »
Yeah, you are right. I never even thought about the possibility of 3.3v SIMMs vs 5v SIMMs.

The GM71V65403CT5 is a 16meg x 4bit dram with 3.3v supply +/- 10% tolerance.

I am measuring 4.5VDC between VCC and VSS pins on the chips, when the SIMM is installed on the Derringer.

That's not good..

If I am unable to find a similar SIMM with 5v rated chips, I may order some small SMT 3.3v regulators and install them inline with the VCC rails on the SIMM, itself.
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Offline kolla

Re: 128megs on a CSA Derringer 030
« Reply #38 on: February 25, 2015, 01:16:14 AM »
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4.) Yes, any machine with at least a 68020 has a 32bit data bus and at least 4 gigs of physical address space.


Carefull, it is not "at least 4 gigs", it is a theoretical maximum of 4 gibibytes of physical address space, and in reality less (some address is reserved to chipram for example). Oldsmobile here is very sensitive when it comes to this kind of information.
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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: 128megs on a CSA Derringer 030
« Reply #39 on: February 25, 2015, 06:17:09 AM »
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Carefull, it is not "at least 4 gigs", it is a theoretical maximum of 4 gibibytes of physical address space, and in reality less (some address is reserved to chipram for example). Oldsmobile here is very sensitive when it comes to this kind of information.

Still trolling?  Glad to know I hit a nerve.  :roflmao:

FWIW, @Metalguy66 did say "at least a 68020", not the 16-bit data bus / 24-bit address bus 68000, which was the basis for your whole idiotic argument in the first place.  :D

Edit: PS - what is a "gibibyte"?  :p  Also, chip ram reservations are because of the Amiga architecture, not a limitation placed by the processor itself.  Man, I can't think of a single accurate statement in your entire post.  Bye!
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