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Offline GulliverTopic starter

Would you buy a new AmigaOS for 68k?
« on: December 16, 2014, 05:23:56 PM »
Without debating features, but realizing that a new AmigaOS for 68k Amigas would bring many interesting enhancements and bugfixes to what 3.1 had, and that it could be developed by former Commodore/Escom Amiga programers that know the code and if they have the blessing of being legaly authorized...

Will you be willing to pay for a new AmigaOS 68k?
 

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Re: Would you buy a new AmigaOS for 68k?
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2014, 05:29:12 PM »
I chose "Maybe". Ideally I would want some new fast FPGA accelerators and or machines for this. However, If good enough I would pay even without that.

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Re: Would you buy a new AmigaOS for 68k?
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2014, 05:36:59 PM »
Like BetterWB? :P
 

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Re: Would you buy a new AmigaOS for 68k?
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2014, 06:08:46 PM »
Hopefully better ;)
 

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Re: Would you buy a new AmigaOS for 68k?
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2014, 06:16:51 PM »
No, because there is a free alternative available. I might be happy to pay for support for the free alternative, but the OS needs to be free. Almost no one sells Operating Systems now.

Offline wawrzon

Re: Would you buy a new AmigaOS for 68k?
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2014, 06:27:03 PM »
this is much too vague. what enchancements? os4 as example did not have much to offer. i wouldnt pay for its 68k equivalent anymore. otherwise what bloodline says. i vote "no" because i will unlikely buy anything from hyperion anymore. otherwise it may have been "maybe".
 

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Re: Would you buy a new AmigaOS for 68k?
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2014, 07:09:26 PM »
I like the idea of a new "original" and compatible Amiga OS, especially if it supports some new features of an "official" FPGA implementation of the chipset. I know, wouldn't beat any existing PC or Mac but some small improvements of the chipset and OS would be nice, as long as it is 100% compatible.
 

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Re: Would you buy a new AmigaOS for 68k?
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2014, 08:13:52 PM »
As someone who uses ClassicWB across all of my "classic" Amigas, I'd certainly be happy to buy a legal floppy/CD combination of an updated OS which contains all of the latest files and patches in one easy to install package.  With the use of something like "AmiUpdate", it could use the Internet to keep it updated with the latest files or allow the user to easily add additional programs.
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Re: Would you buy a new AmigaOS for 68k?
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2014, 08:15:12 PM »
I would like a continuation of the "Boing Bag" updates for 3.9, or a roll-up, sort of like AOS 4.1 FE, with all the latest versions of libraries, utilities, etc. This could be a software-only update, or a software + ROM update. Bonus points if they include an updated web browser! :hammer: I'd buy it either way!
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Re: Would you buy a new AmigaOS for 68k?
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2014, 06:04:23 AM »
AROS is the best choice.

If it had lot of features, or some serious optimisations, but you could put AROS bounties in for that.
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Re: Would you buy a new AmigaOS for 68k?
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2014, 07:42:03 AM »
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As someone who uses ClassicWB across all of my "classic" Amigas, I'd certainly be happy to buy a legal floppy/CD combination of an updated OS which contains all of the latest files and patches in one easy to install package.  With the use of something like "AmiUpdate", it could use the Internet to keep it updated with the latest files or allow the user to easily add additional programs.

I wonder if this can't already be done with the AmiKit version 8 for real Amiga computers (ignoring the problem(s) raised by the inclusion of MUI v4, due to what the authors did with copyrights and/or documentation)

I have always liked AmiKit and Jan who works to get permissions and exclusive offers occasionally to include applications, games, or utilities/tools with certain versions over the years.  I think that it is an excellent collection of Amiga patch files, tools, utilities, applications and a few games, that looks great and has always worked well for me.  There may be even more improvements that can be added to AmiKit for real Amiga computers, and/or further optimizations that can be done, depending on which CPU you have in your Amiga, or if you are running RTG on a dedicated video card, or still using AGA/ECS displays.

I don't know if AmiKit includes all of what is generally installed with the unofficial Boing Bag 3, or Boing Bag 4, but assume that they are included in the latest version of AmiKit.  Others may use AmigaSys, ClassicWB, or other compilations of custom AmigaOS3.x files, but having an ongoing project that would provide updates automatically via an Online utility that downloads and installs updates as they become available (like AmiUpdate, or Grunch), would be great and something I would subscribe and pay a moderate fee for each few months.

I think it could be done legally if it checked your CD drive for the AmigaOS3.9 CDROM, and installed it's additional files on top of an existing AmigaOS3.9 installation, including the installation of the two official Boing Bags 1 & 2 and the unofficial Boing Bags 3 & 4, plus all updated files created since that time.

I think that many Amiga users would prefer this simple click to install all-in-one update to the most modern AmigaOS3.x installation currently available, instead of having to search for and decide which components should be installed by themselves, as the expertise to choose the best files and components is only known to a few dozen expert users, and many of us "less expert" users could use some assistance to obtain the best results.

If the installation script could also ask questions and provide alternative choices depending on which CPU you have, which video card, and a few other things that vary from one Amiga, further optimizations could be performed to maximize the performance for your specific Amiga model and accelerator.

I think this could be done without any new Kickstart ROM's being required, as the best performance is usually obtained from loading many/most of the components contained in the KS ROM's and remapping them into Fast RAM.

I am looking forward to the day when a really fast FPGA based accelerator for several different Commodore Amiga models is available for purchase, and an installation script and required files are available to setup the most powerful and full featured AmigaOS3.x system with a simple click (or double click) of an installation icon.

I would be happy to use an accelerated Commodore Amiga that has an FPGA based accelerator capable of running faster than a 680x0 clocked at 400MHz, instead of any other NG Amiga platform, if we can get some new software applications (and games) that are comparable with, or better than the currently available native PPC AmigaOS4.x, or MorphOS3.x software.  I would think that a soft-core 680x0 CPU running in excess of 400MHz should be powerful enough to run the OWB/Odyssey web browser at a decent speed, if it is coupled with an RTG video card, but maybe I am just dreaming of being able to use one of my old Commodore Amiga computers to do most of my daily Internet browsing and email tasks.
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Re: Would you buy a new AmigaOS for 68k?
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2014, 09:28:37 AM »
Yes. Id pay for an update. Im just starting to muck about with my a1200atm.
 

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Re: Would you buy a new AmigaOS for 68k?
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2014, 09:33:02 AM »
As long as it would work OK on my old A2000 030 or 040 fired machine, I would pay for a new OS.
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Re: Would you buy a new AmigaOS for 68k?
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2014, 02:06:56 PM »
I would buy an update- less bloated than 3.9 and including features similar to ClassicWB, being all up to date (including browser, etc.)... OS 3.2/3.91?
 

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Re: Would you buy a new AmigaOS for 68k?
« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2014, 03:12:24 PM »
Yes. But it won't happen. Thread closed :p