Best Commodore 4000 Monitor?

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Appreciate your support, although I want to keep the authentic Commodore Retro Experience. Get the 1960, Get the 1940, Get the 1960, Get the 1940, ahhhhhhhh I can't make a decision!!! :crazy:

That's what I figured.  Neither of them come up for sale very often, I'd say get whichever you can find first, and be prepared to do a little work on it to "get it right".

There's a 1950 for sale right now with a fairly reasonable buy-it-now price:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/COMMODORE-1950-MONITOR-Amiga-CLEANED-WORKING-multisync-vga-crt-vintage-/321612132369

[fondpondforever]

Not interested in the 1950, thanks for the link though. So Mike, if you had an Amiga 4000 without a Monitor, would you choose the 1960 or 1940 if you had to choose from one of the two.

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Not interested in the 1950, thanks for the link though. So Mike, if you had an Amiga 4000 without a Monitor, would you choose the 1960 or 1940 if you had to choose from one of the two.

I would sooner gouge my eyes out.    The A4000 is capable of so much more, especially if you add a video card.

Although if it was the year 1992 again, I'd probably go with the 1960 and just use a set of external speakers or hook up to my stereo.  I had a 1084S-D1 back then however, because that's all I could afford and I thought it was amazing.  In 1992.  

[fondpondforever]

Here's the response I got on EAB. I asked 'What's the 1940 like compared to the 1960 monitor on an Amiga 4000' and the person responded with this answer 'Terrible..Oh, reasoning.. yes..

- no two amiga screen modes use the same adjustments so you will spend a lot of time twiddling the knobs
- unsharp dot pitch'

What would be your comment to this answer Mike? Thanks

[danwood]

I used an Indivision AGA and a 19" SVGA CRT, looks a lot nicer than an LCD.

Now I have a Picasso IV via the same screen.

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Here's the response I got on EAB. I asked 'What's the 1940 like compared to the 1960 monitor on an Amiga 4000' and the person responded with this answer 'Terrible..Oh, reasoning.. yes..

- no two amiga screen modes use the same adjustments so you will spend a lot of time twiddling the knobs
- unsharp dot pitch'

What would be your comment to this answer Mike? Thanks

Ha!

The 1960 does have a higher dot pitch. You can read that right in any of the pages of links to the specs we've already sent you. It was the more "professional" model. Neither of these was a high quality product when they were released new, however. And now, with 20 years of age on them? Good luck.

I remember back in the day, most people wanted the NEC 3D. That was "the monitor to have". Nobody who knew better wanted a Commodore monitor. Or what was that other monster that people liked back in the day? The 20" Toshiba TIMM? Maybe try finding one of those? Ha.
 
 Amiga Report Magazine has a few reviews on different monitors from "back in the day" tucked inside it's pages. Was a bit of nostalgia just googling up a link: http://www.amigareport.com/  Have fun!

[Damion]

The 1942 is better than the 1940. I've seen the 1942 in action and it's really not that bad, definitely a little nicer than the similarly-cased Korean 1084's. The 1960 was the best, most expensive and probably had a better tube.

A 14" or 20" Sony broadcast CRT is the absolute pinnacle for games - blows away those old monitors, or any other CRT, and (at 14") will keep the screen size authentic. Personally, I don't like blowing up old low-res games on big LCDs, so I hear ya there.

Another idea would be to run Workbench using a graphics card on a CRT or LCD (something quality, like an Eizo, older Iiyama, etc), with a 14" Sony PVM/BVM plugged into the RGB port. Best of both worlds.

If you want an original C= monitor, don't want to upgrade the machine much over stock, and have one monitor for everything, hold out for a 1960.

[fondpondforever]

The 1960 Monitor it is then. I just have one last question. Why would Commodore release the 1940 Monitor 2 years after the 1960 Monitor which was Multisync where as the later one was Bisync, not as advanced. Thanks

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

The 1960 Monitor it is then. I just have one last question. Why would Commodore release the 1940 Monitor 2 years after the 1960 Monitor which was Multisync where as the later one was Bisync, not as advanced. Thanks

Like I said, from what I remember of seeing of ads in Amiga World and other magazines at the time, the 1940 was released as a "lower end" monitor to be sold along with the A1200. That's why it had speakers - for games. The 1960 was a business/productivity monitor, hence the higher dot pitch.

Companies released cost-reduced models all the time. Commodore was especially "cost conscious" in this way. In other words, "cheap".

TL;DR. You're killing me dude. Just because something's newer doesn't mean it's better. :p

Go ask Commodore if you want any more reasoning than that.

[fondpondforever]

That makes perfect sense now. Thanks so much for all of your super duper info Mike. *Start's surfing Amibay for a Commodore Amiga 1960 Monitor whilst eating Iced White, Red and Green Christmas Ring Donuts'

[Damion]

The 1960 Monitor it is then. I just have one last question. Why would Commodore release the 1940 Monitor 2 years after the 1960 Monitor which was Multisync where as the later one was Bisync, not as advanced. Thanks

I'm not sure the "two years" statement is accurate.

The 1940/42 was lower cost with less features intended for the A1200 market. It may have been released (for whatever reasons) later than the 1960, but was definitely not in the same price/performance bracket as the 1960.

[fondpondforever]

Ok cool.

[Vlabguy1]

What is the best Commodore 4000 Monitor? Thanks

Where are you located? I have a 1942 if you are interested.

Rich

[fondpondforever]

That's Brilliant, I'm definitely interested in buying it from you. How much money would you want for the Monitor. Located in Cornwall, England.

[Vlabguy1]

That's Brilliant, I'm definitely interested in buying it from you. How much money would you want for the Monitor. Located in Cornwall, England.

Hmmm.. Well Im located in NY.  I cant even imagine the shipping cost to England.  Probably not worth it.  Actually the monitor is free to anyone local .

Rich

[fondpondforever]

I'm willing to pay the international postage and packaging cost. It's no different from sending anything else worldwide, I've bought a big box of Megaman Items from the USA before, wasn't that expensive. So I'm still keen :cool: