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Re: MIPS for next Amiga
« Reply #29 from previous page: December 10, 2014, 12:34:51 AM »
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it appears HP are making some new kind of computer and creating a new OS for it... http://www.technologyreview.com/news/533066/hp-will-release-a-revolutionary-new-operating-system-in-2015/
maybe this could be the new platform for AmigaOS ;)


Early prototype in 2016, that should align nicely with the release of AmigaOS 4.2 ;)

What HP are doing is more important than what they produce; They are looking at what compromises have been made in the past and are questioning if we still need to be making them. This is a key mindset for innovation.

Server computing is where companies spend gazillions of $ each year and makes sense to launch to these customers, most of which are dealing with power consumption issues for their ever demanding server loads.

Personal computing is migrating over to the personal devices like notebooks, tablets, and smartphones. Even in the corporate sector here in Oz most companies issue a notebook to their staff. Denizens of desktops seem to be developers, gamers, and professionals in the video and CAD/CAM segments. Oh and the nouveau-retro Amiga hobbyists.

It's all a moot point anyway. Until someone decides to open-source AmigaOS 4.x we are stuck with PowerPC. More like MoneyPC.
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Re: MIPS for next Amiga
« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2014, 01:19:00 PM »
Is there a server that shares RAM? or does each unit need its own RAM and hard drive?
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Re: MIPS for next Amiga
« Reply #31 on: December 10, 2014, 07:50:55 PM »
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Interesting opinion, but Android has always worked well for me.
"branded language / environment" ?
I'm pretty sure the term is still "OS" (short for Operating System).

The Java-like environment negates many of the possible advantages of running on a GNU/Linux OS. It's the worst of both worlds.

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And..."tries to support as many viruses and Trojans as Windows".
Those require support?
I always thought their presence was a good indicator of the size of the user base of an OS and its general popularity.

That's a myth. There's a reason there are no active, actual viruses for BSD (Mac OS X included) or GNU/Linux. Sure, there are plenty of Trojans, but Trojans and viruses are not the same things.
 

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Re: MIPS for next Amiga
« Reply #32 on: December 10, 2014, 09:41:46 PM »
ElPolloDiablo: sounds like what you describe is what we call a cluster of servers. A proper cluster operating system runs on several computers, and processes can share resources like ram and disk across the nodes in the cluster. Since the topic has turned to HP here, they are the current owners of OpenVMS Galaxy, which is a cluster operating system.
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Re: MIPS for next Amiga
« Reply #33 on: December 10, 2014, 09:56:32 PM »
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Desktop motheboards:

http://mattst88.com/blog/2010/11/12/The_Loongson_3A_%28Godson_3A%29_looks_nice!/

Notebooks:

http://www.technogog.com/review/alpha-400-mips-400mhz-128mb-1gb-7-linux-ultralite-note/

http://www.amazon.com/Screen-Lemote-Yeeloong-8101_B-Netbook/dp/B005XH10NQ

http://technologer.net/2009/05/15/iunika-gyy-netbook-is-low-in-specs-but-solar-powered/

That only in a 1 minute google search; if you search more in deep sure you find more


Heh. Cool. Are any of those still available? The geeks netbook is flagged as unavailable. The server/desktop boards sound nice, and even use AMD chipsets like X1000 does, kindof. The 10" notebook I find two "offers" available, which does not sound like an ongoing sale of a still manufactured product, that's how clearance or out of print things end up.  

Which is sortof the situation we are already in with PPC, where do we actually buy hardware? Sometimes we can, sometimes there is not anything to buy at all, not even used.
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Re: MIPS for next Amiga
« Reply #34 on: December 10, 2014, 10:40:03 PM »
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The Java-like environment negates many of the possible advantages of running on a GNU/Linux OS. It's the worst of both worlds.

What would those negations be?
Performance isn't an issue as illustrated by many games, with many GHz making low level optimisation a banal task best left to the 90s for 90% of modern development, for that other stuff there's also Android's Renderscript.
The sandboxed runtime prevents some security leaks, which is better than no prevention.
Managed memory prevents memory and related overrun leaks.
Built in optimisation for coders who don't know or need to know how to optimise.
General high compatibility whatever the hardware be it Android on a Tegra, MIPs etc devices.
A source language using improved syntax (over C++ and assembly) which comes with a standard string class, async io, threading libraries and common hardware interfacing.

Or did you mean something else?
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Re: MIPS for next Amiga
« Reply #35 on: December 10, 2014, 10:54:32 PM »
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I find myself tempted to get one... But there are better ARM boards for the money.


...or for less money: Odroid-C1

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-edit- The HummingBoard is very exciting :-)


Lookup the firefly board, it's more powerful.


The AMD A1100 has a proper desktop style board but it's only a (rather expensive) dev board at the moment.