A-EON Technology Acquires Personal Paint

[amigakit]

The older 7.1c archive will be available to download from the official PPaint website:

http://ppaint.amistore.net

This domain is still in the process of propogating with DNS servers around the world so it wont be available everywhere until during the next 24-48 hours

[wawrzon]

And again, its been available for aaaaaages, so anyone even remotely intrested in the program either already have it installed or got a file lying around somewhere.

so this is the attitude towards those who did not download yet, let alone potential new users? sure, there aint no new users, not likely given the circumstances.

[Niding]

Again; what entitles us to free stuff all the time.

[bloodline]

What the whingers don't seem to get is that the copyright holder might want to host the free downloads, of their older software, on their own site so that downloaders can be informed and kept up to date with improvements/free bug fixes/new versions.

It makes perfect sense.

[AmigaOldskooler]

Again; what entitles us to free stuff all the time.

I presume you've bought this and other packages from AmiStore yourself?

Anyways, one should not forget the super important role of PD in the history of the Amiga. It is freeware that has kept the flame burning for years and years, not commercial software packages. No one is entitled to free software, but the norm on the Amiga has been to make things for fun, challenge and coolness, not cashing in. I'm talking about the last 10-15 years here of course. Aminet has been THE port of call for enthusiasts, newbies etc, and the unwritten rule is that what goes on Aminet stays on Aminet.

[buzz]

What the whingers don't seem to get is that the copyright holder might want to host the free downloads, of their older software, on their own site so that downloaders can be informed and kept up to date with improvements/free bug fixes/new versions.

It makes perfect sense.

Then this should have been made clear and it should have been done in a different order (making the file available first). I still think it would have been better to leave the original copy on aminet and just update the readme etc (could reference the website).

not rocket science.

[danwood]

Then this should have been made clear and it should have been done in a different order (making the file available first).

not rocket science.

Ok yeah it was done a bit back-to-front, but I also don't see a big deal if they're going to make it available on their website for free.  If it's only on AmiStore then that's a bit of a pain for classic and MorphOS users though, but if you really want PPaint, it's not exactly hard to find through a quick Google search.

It's nice to see a classic piece of Amiga software back in development though.  It would be nice to see a version for all Amiga-like OSes and the original Amiga too, rather than just focussing on OS4, especially as I tend to see a lot more people using MorphOS than OS4 on the forums these days, it would be nice to at least have a compatible 68K version for MorphOS, I'd be up for buying that.

[Niding]

I presume you've bought this and other packages from AmiStore yourself?

Anyways, one should not forget the super important role of PD in the history of the Amiga. It is freeware that has kept the flame burning for years and years, not commercial software packages. No one is entitled to free software, but the norm on the Amiga has been to make things for fun, challenge and coolness, not cashing in. I'm talking about the last 10-15 years here of course. Aminet has been THE port of call for enthusiasts, newbies etc, and the unwritten rule is that what goes on Aminet stays on Aminet.

Ive bought software and hardware from AmigaKit and other vendors this year, and kitted out my A1200. Gotten AO4 Classic too etc.

That said; I dont do painting, so for me personally I dont need Personal Paint for anything.
Just because I support what AeonKit is trying to do overall, doesnt mean I intend on throwing money at them blindly. I buy what I want/have any use for.
I do already have Personal Paint on the harddrive tho.

As for Aminet; yes I agree its a wonderful resource, but I cant see why vendors and developers should be villified because of endusers misconseptions.

[A6000]

Perhaps their next acquisition could be Ibrowse, (I like the name), and develop it for the 68k, it might entice people to their amistore as well.

[khiiri]

I think this is only positive direction that someone takes commercial interest in Amiga software. I would be happy to pay something for example for updated IBrowse and other software as well, this is so niche market and as a software developer I understand the amount of work that is needed for development.

[Djole]

Yeah, it wouldn't be that big problem if it'd go that way. And maybe also a readme to Aminet explaining where you can get it. I'd be OK for me.

BUT, currently it seems that it won't be available that easily. It hasn't been said it'll be on their web site, it's been said to be on their "servers", which currently looks like that it means it'll be available only through their Amistore software.

It gives a lot of trouble, for example:
1) Amistore application is currently only available for OS4. 68k version is coming some day, but currently you need OS4 to get the software.
2) You need network connection and beefy enough Amiga to run Amistore. You can't get the software directly with Windows, Linux or Mac (to transfer it with other means to Amiga) unless running it on emulation and that might be a bit too big hassle for many users just wanting the old free PPaint to their old Amiga.
3) You probably need to register and take other actions before getting the software you used to have easily on Aminet. Old version's readme could have been updated to direct interested people to new commercial versions.




I can't believe we wouldn't have any new users or old users coming back ever anymore. And nobody would want to reinstall their system? Not everyone is keeping backups of their installation archives which are expected to be freely available anyway. For example many demosceners try different platforms etc and for them PPaint would be a great help, but I'm afraid they won't always look further than Aminet, but their productivity would do good for the Amiga.

Sadly you are wrong, you assumed it would only be available via Amistore but its not. You can download from http://ppaint.amistore.net/. We should be happy there is a company willing to invest in anything Amiga related but all we do is complain and whine.... like always....

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Perhaps their next acquistion could be Ibrowse, (I like the name), and develop it for the 68k, it might entice people to their amistore as well.

Yes!

[trekiej]

I believe that people are afraid that the Amiga is going to get gutted like what happened back the 90's.
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[broadblues]

it would be nice to at least have a compatible 68K version for MorphOS, I'd be up for buying that.

There no reason that the 68k PPaint 7.3 shouldn't work on Morphos, there is code within, that I haven't messed with, for detecting Morphos. If the 71.c works the 7.3 should too. If the 7.1c has issues then those issues likely remain unless they were fixed by accident :-). It's not been tested on MOS though.

If someone who has both OS4 and MOS and bought the 68k version would like to give feedback they would be welcome :-)

[danwood]

There no reason that the 68k PPaint 7.3 shouldn't work on Morphos, there is code within, that I haven't messed with, for detecting Morphos. If the 71.c works the 7.3 should too. If the 7.1c has issues then those issues likely remain unless they were fixed by accident :-). It's not been tested on MOS though.

If someone who has both OS4 and MOS and bought the 68k version would like to give feedback they would be welcome :-)

I don't run OS4 any more unfortunately, but I do have a nice 040 classic and two MorphOS machines, happy to test it if I can buy it!

[Duce]

Where can the version that was on Aminet until recently available for download at the moment?

Gotta admit, something sticks in my craw badly about software being released on sites like Aminet then being pulled.  But hey, if they bought it out, I guess it's theirs to do what they wish now in the long run.  I never used the program enough to pay for it to begin with, so no skin off me.  ADPro and the other oldies (even DPaint) still run just fine on OS4 and are better as it sits anyways.

Thankfully I do an automated mirror of Aminet for my BBS once every couple weeks, so I should still have it around for personal use.