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I am giving up AmigaOS4
« on: February 17, 2004, 07:07:26 AM »
Its hard for me to say this, but AmigaOS4 wont have any future
if its not comming out now! Even in its beta stage.

The reason for this, is that the community. I know more and more
people is going to PegasosII and MorphOS. This is not a campaign
made by me or something to get you buying Pegasos. I am still a
AmigaOS4 waiter, but the wait is too long. So for many others.

I've ordered a PegasosII board now, with MorphOS. I know that
the development is going on there, and I know that the Amiga
community wich was, is gathering arround MorphOS.

Amiga Inc and Hyperion needs to wake up! Keeping delaying this
product all the time, and I cant imagine that MorpbOS and AmigaOS4
is that different to each others.

MorphOS boots up fast, its got a very nice look, it got MUI intergrated
to its system. It got mplayer for playing allmost all sorts of codecs
out there. You have CygnusEDPPC version for MorphOS++

This might be a promotional for MorphOS. But AmigaOS4 is hurting
me. Its not out, I just see pictures of it. AmigaOS4 is a shame. I mean
it and Hyperion should really re-think their strategies. Because MorphOS
is taking one by one piece of the community every day as long as
AmigaOS4 aint out.

To this date. MorphOS is the fastest OS in the world, wich is out for public. I
dont know whats with AmigaOS4. I dont know anything and it scares me.

I love MorphOS now! It also got JIT emulation of AmigaOS. Running Deluxe Paint,
TvPaint, and other 68x aint a problem at all too.

I wish I had AmigaOS4- Now I am getting PegasosII- I am tired of waiting!

Regards,
Michal, www.amigaworld.org

This debate was taken away from www.amigaworld.net! Thats a bad move!
I love and respect people which care! And not those with
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Re: I am giving up AmigaOS4
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2004, 07:17:17 AM »
To be honest,don't know why people are still bothering with it! :-o
 

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Re: I am giving up AmigaOS4
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2004, 07:21:39 AM »
Same with me. I would love to see it though, but AmigaOS4 is actually killing Amiga people, rather than getting them back. Its sad, but true.

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Re: I am giving up AmigaOS4
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2004, 07:22:26 AM »
True.
MorphOS looks like the better alternative right now, but I can't help felling that OS4 has a more "proffessional" feeling about it.
Beating the dead horse since 2002.
 

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Re: I am giving up AmigaOS4
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2004, 07:26:41 AM »
At this time, AmigaOS4 would sure be able to catch lots of Amiga people. But in one or two months, its getting worse day by day.

I would love to use AmigaOS4 beside my PegasosII offcourse. But there is a time, when you just have to go further. You cant be sitting and waiting for AmigaOS4 in all time.

I want AmigaOS4 out now!

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Re: I am giving up AmigaOS4
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2004, 07:33:18 AM »
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Amiga Inc and Hyperion needs to wake up! Keeping delaying this product all the time

On the other hand, I don't think releasing it (and with release I mean "release version", not any beta) before it is finished would be much (if any) better...

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I cant imagine that MorpbOS and AmigaOS4 is that different to each others.

agreed. But when comparing MorphOS and AmigaOS4, it's worth remembering that current MorphOS release is 1/2 already years old.
 

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Re: I am giving up AmigaOS4
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2004, 07:47:59 AM »
amidelf: goodluck on that..

Whats up with all the hate!
 

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Re: I am giving up AmigaOS4
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2004, 07:49:34 AM »
Well, I own both a peggy and an A1. I do use the A1 somewhat cause I kind of like Debian, but it´s mainly collecting dust in wait of OS4. I´ve really tried using MorpOs but it´s just to buggy.

MorpOs is nice though, but it should not have been released this early. All the bugs make it impossible to use as a main OS. And don´t get me started on using linux on the peg...

What I´ve seen of Os4 is promising, but not yet convincing. I really wish I was a beta-tester. Guess I would sleep easier at night.

But with MorpOs we are all beta-testers! Perhaps that´s better than nothing.

But nah, it´s never going to be the same. I´ve used Amiga for well over a decade. Mostly cause I followed my heart and not so much for more rational reasons. And no peg, however stupid it may sound, will ever have a place in my heart. So, it´s OS4 or nothing for me. But perhaps a younger generation will chose MorpOs and turn it in something new, and the memory of Amiga will slowly fade away. I sure hope not.
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AND: A1000, A500, A600/030, CDTV, CD32 etc etc
 

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Re: I am giving up AmigaOS4
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2004, 07:55:57 AM »
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crown wrote:
And don´t get me started on using linux on the peg...



Why?
 

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Re: I am giving up AmigaOS4
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2004, 08:37:22 AM »
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Its hard for me to say this, but AmigaOS4 wont have any future if its not comming out now! Even in its beta stage.


Really, it needed to come out a year ago or more, now, in a beta stage.  Especially for the poor souls who bought an A1 system.  It's a mighty expensive Linux box.  :-(

Out of curiousity, I really would like to see an A1 run AmigaOS4. (no demo that I know of has been within less than 400 miles of my city...)  It would just be fascinating to see how much of it is really ready.

But it's really an unfortunate situation.  I think Hyperion is purposefully being slow.  I'd guess they are hoping AI will finally die, so they can keep the cut of profits AI would claim.  While, of course, AI has no money, but is doing it's best Black Knight "I'm not dead yet!" impression -- hoping to collect money from Hyperion or the mystery investors.  

So it's just a waiting game.  Who will blink first?  Will AI croak?  Or will Hyperion just say "screw it" and write off the losses to be able to collect something?  Who knows?  Both companies have a lot to lose by being the first to give in, though.  Meanwhile, the Amiga fans continue to suffer, while the technology turns more and more outdated and useless.  If no one breaks the stalemate soon though, it won't matter who won the squabble.  It'll all be worthless.

I really hope I'm wrong....  It would be a sad and petty end for the greatest computer ever.  :-(
 

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Re: I am giving up AmigaOS4
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2004, 08:46:03 AM »
Hi,

Well the beta version for the early bird owners is still not out.
Maybe March? And then maybe a month or 3/4 more for the final release.
But then again no one can tell when it is out. I know the waiting is
long and running Linux on it is not fun anymore. I was hoping that
this month the beta version would come. Now I am hoping in March. But
I wonder how the beta will be shipped. Dealer? Direct to me?

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Re: I am giving up AmigaOS4
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2004, 08:50:20 AM »
llwrath:

>But it's really an unfortunate situation. I think Hyperion >is purposefully being slow. I'd guess they are

Nonsense.

>So it's just a waiting game. Who will blink first? Will AI >croak? Or will Hyperion just say "screw it" and write off >the losses to be able to collect something? Who knows?

Nonsense.

Sorry for being so abrupt...

AmiDelf&Co: AFAIK there are noticably more AmigaOne owners than Pegasos-owners. And you have to consider those numbers
which were given recently also contain multi-buyers and
people who bought Pegasos for Linux...

Steffen
 

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Re: I am giving up AmigaOS4
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2004, 08:59:46 AM »
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AFAIK there are noticably more AmigaOne owners than Pegasos-owners. And you have to consider those numbers which were given recently also contain multi-buyers and people who bought Pegasos for Linux...


Do you have any numbers to share? We've seen the numbers for Pegasos 1 & 2, but Eyetech has been reluctant to give out any. Oh, I guess we should also consider people who bought AmigaOne for Linux?
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Re: I am giving up AmigaOS4
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2004, 09:00:20 AM »
Well Bodie, because on my X86 Slackware is running along nice and stable and is easy to install and configure.

That´s beyond the capabilities of the peg plattform today. Im sure the situation will improve over time.

 
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Re: I am giving up AmigaOS4
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2004, 09:08:15 AM »
@magicSN
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Nonsense.


Care to elaborate?  Really...  If there's a flaw with the idea, how about some constructive criticism?  

Point me to any signs of recent progress.  Hyperion have even announced they are working on other projects.  

Hyperion announces Gorky 17 project

From a quick glance over their team and size, it doesn't look like they can support multiple projects of this size.  That means AmigaOS4 is basically sitting at some form of an impasse, while the Linux and AOS4 versions of Gorky 17 are developed, correct?

I merely posed my theory as to why they would change course like this.  

Please tell me how this is nonsense.