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Offline chris

Re: NetSurf 3.5 68k released
« Reply #89 from previous page: May 18, 2016, 11:53:35 PM »
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Test results are from that old build wich you made for someone who asked.


IIRC that was the one where I built GCC using a "no FPU" switch which wasn't documented anywhere to say it would work on 68k target, and nobody told me whether or not it worked without an FPU, but I got the impression it still needed one.  God knows what that was doing.  The current build is soft-float still, but without that iffy switch.
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Re: NetSurf 3.5 68k released
« Reply #90 on: May 19, 2016, 12:02:50 AM »
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Chris - any chance you'd have an older non-FPU version on hand?  I don't need the latest, just wanted to play around a bit..  Greatly appreciated :)..

August 2015: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cdyoung/tmp/netsurf_os3_old.lha
Feb 2015: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cdyoung/tmp/netsurf_os3_feb2015 (executable only)

They may or may not work, and they will almost certainly be horrible.
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Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf 3.5 68k released
« Reply #91 on: May 19, 2016, 06:13:56 PM »
Could you you consider to get rid of friend bitmap and AGA version would need some love too. There is a problem with png pictures with invisible background, but just with AGA.

Those fixed only bigger thing to do is find memory leak / fix fragmention?? Am I right?
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Re: NetSurf 3.5 68k released
« Reply #92 on: May 19, 2016, 07:23:22 PM »
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Could you you consider to get rid of friend bitmap and AGA version would need some love too. There is a problem with png pictures with invisible background, but just with AGA.


It uses a 1-bit mask.  I believe this works, but it's not ideal.
It's a shame guigfx doesn't support alpha blending.  render.library does, but it's not feasible to blend everything in raw ARGB bitmaps, and I think reading the render BitMap into a memory area, blending across and re-writing to the screen will be too slow (not to mention a lot of hassle).  I might try it at some point.

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Those fixed only bigger thing to do is find memory leak / fix fragmention?? Am I right?


Yes.
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Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf 3.5 68k released
« Reply #93 on: May 19, 2016, 10:25:41 PM »
I forget, aga has that "red problem", like white and red are swapped.
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Re: NetSurf 3.5 68k released
« Reply #94 on: May 19, 2016, 11:59:24 PM »
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I forget, aga has that "red problem", like white and red are swapped.


That's not an AGA problem, it's an 8-bit mode problem.

I thought it might be a colour byte order problem but I tried all plausible byte orders and none of them were better.

If it's working in 32-bit modes then that would suggest the byte order is correct, and there's something wrong with guigfx's pen selection instead.

I'd be surprised if there was that obvious a bug in guigfx/render.library but you never know...
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Re: NetSurf 3.5 68k released
« Reply #95 on: May 20, 2016, 02:06:29 AM »
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August 2015: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cdyoung/tmp/netsurf_os3_old.lha
Feb 2015: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cdyoung/tmp/netsurf_os3_feb2015 (executable only)

They may or may not work, and they will almost certainly be horrible.


Horrible is OK :)

Good news and bad news --
It looks like it'll open without requiring a FPU.
However, it wants AmigaOS 3.5 or higher (I have 3.1), as it asks for "Diskfont.library v0 not found" which I think means v40 or higher.  I see the 'release' version on Aminet says Amiga OS 3.x.. but maybe not the case for this older version.  Thanks so much for sharing though Chris!
 

Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf 3.5 68k released
« Reply #96 on: May 20, 2016, 06:54:00 AM »
You are confusing two different versions. You have read Arthur's fork's readme. That is based to sdl and framebuffer version of netsurf. It is OK with emulated enviroment, but not with Real amiga.
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Re: NetSurf 3.5 68k released
« Reply #97 on: May 20, 2016, 09:56:08 AM »
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However, it wants AmigaOS 3.5 or higher (I have 3.1), as it asks for "Diskfont.library v0 not found" which I think means v40 or higher.  I see the 'release' version on Aminet says Amiga OS 3.x.. but maybe not the case for this older version.  Thanks so much for sharing though Chris!


All of my builds need 3.5+
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Re: NetSurf 3.5 68k released
« Reply #98 on: May 20, 2016, 08:32:26 PM »
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All of my builds need 3.5+


Got it!   Comprehension after reading is a good thing :)
 

Offline apjTopic starter

Re: NetSurf 3.5 68k released
« Reply #99 on: May 23, 2016, 01:32:00 AM »
Hi there,
my version works without FPU.
Homepage is here http://ami-soft.blogspot.com/
There is no FPU version of 3.5.
It works on all 3.x oses.

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Re: NetSurf 3.5 68k released
« Reply #100 on: May 23, 2016, 07:14:43 PM »
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Hi there,
my version works without FPU.
Homepage is here http://ami-soft.blogspot.com/
There is no FPU version of 3.5.
It works on all 3.x oses.


Thank you :)

This seems to get a lot further -

"Unable to Init SDL:  No available video device
Unable to initialise framebuffer"

I'm running an A1200 with 68020@ 28 mhz, 33MB of fast ram (+2MB chip ram, Indivision DVI AGA), using Miami and a pmcica ethernet for TCP/IP.  

I've looked through the docs but not sure if there is something else I should install?  The SDL library looks useful for compiling this myself only.  

I've tried the desktop at (highgfx - 1024x768x16 color/256 colors, and also PAL interlaced high res 16 and 256 colors).
 

Offline apjTopic starter

Re: NetSurf 3.5 68k released
« Reply #101 on: May 23, 2016, 10:58:57 PM »
You need aga version.

Maximum resolution is 640x512.

No SDL library required.

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Re: NetSurf 3.5 68k released
« Reply #102 on: May 23, 2016, 11:03:55 PM »
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You need aga version.

Maximum resolution is 640x512.

No SDL library required.


AGA version requires the FPU though unfortunately :(
 

Offline utri007

Re: NetSurf 3.5 68k released
« Reply #103 on: May 24, 2016, 06:54:18 AM »
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Thank you :)

This seems to get a lot further -

"Unable to Init SDL:  No available video device
Unable to initialise framebuffer"

I'm running an A1200 with 68020@ 28 mhz, 33MB of fast ram (+2MB chip ram, Indivision DVI AGA), using Miami and a pmcica ethernet for TCP/IP.  

I've looked through the docs but not sure if there is something else I should install?  The SDL library looks useful for compiling this myself only.  

I've tried the desktop at (highgfx - 1024x768x16 color/256 colors, and also PAL interlaced high res 16 and 256 colors).


Arthurs version would not work with your system anyway. It requires more memory than you have.

You should consider update to OS3.9
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
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Re: NetSurf 3.5 68k released
« Reply #104 on: May 24, 2016, 12:37:21 PM »
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Arthurs version would not work with your system anyway. It requires more memory than you have.

You should consider update to OS3.9


I can go to 63 MB - would that be enough ?  (Aca1221).

I just want to see it work and hit basic sites like aminet .  

Guess for now I'll wait for the vampire a1200.