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Offline trekiejTopic starter

Fire Wire Camera
« on: September 08, 2014, 03:37:34 PM »
Has anyone here used a firewire camera with an amiga/aros/morphos?
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Offline pyrre

Re: Fire Wire Camera
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2014, 03:49:37 PM »
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Has anyone here used a firewire camera with an amiga/aros/morphos?
was there ever made firewire connectivity for the amiga?
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Offline trekiejTopic starter

Re: Fire Wire Camera
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2014, 04:31:57 PM »
I do not know. I guess one needed the mediator board.
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Offline Gulliver

Re: Fire Wire Camera
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2014, 06:11:18 PM »
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was there ever made firewire connectivity for the amiga?


Not for the Amiga per se, but the DraCo (Amiga compatible) had a working firewire module.
 

Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: Fire Wire Camera
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2014, 06:20:14 PM »
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Not for the Amiga per se, but the DraCo (Amiga compatible) had a working firewire module.

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Offline trekiejTopic starter

Re: Fire Wire Camera
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2014, 01:07:22 AM »
Is there an application that would allow some one to switch between two or more firewire
cameras using one computer?
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Offline trekiejTopic starter

Re: Fire Wire Camera
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2014, 01:30:31 AM »
I have seen one site that says one needs two pci firewire cards and two cameras to record two streams.
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Offline Matt_H

Re: Fire Wire Camera
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2014, 01:33:14 AM »
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Is there an application that would allow some one to switch between two or more firewire
cameras using one computer?


Not for the Amiga. I'm sure an Avid/Premiere/Final Cut-equipped Mac or PC could do it.

The only "Amiga" Firewire interface was for the Draco and worked only with Movieshop. See here.

There's no Amiga camera driver for any of the PCI Firewire boards, either. I think the most that's been done for PCI Firewire so far is a beta driver for Firewire hard drives.
 

Offline trekiejTopic starter

Re: Fire Wire Camera
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2014, 02:10:13 AM »
How about aros and morphos?
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Offline Matt_H

Re: Fire Wire Camera
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2014, 02:47:33 AM »
I think my post above applies to all Amiga flavors. Maybe, maybe things are better on AROS but I don't know for certain.
 

Offline trekiejTopic starter

Re: Fire Wire Camera
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2014, 02:56:38 AM »
Thanks.
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Re: Fire Wire Camera
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2014, 09:44:44 AM »
Helios wip for MorphOS has support for firewire cameras

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=54713
 

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Re: Fire Wire Camera
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2014, 03:30:48 AM »
A further wrinkle is that various camera manufacturers offered differing levels of compatibility even with Mac and PC during the height of the format.  Canon and Sony and JVC cameras could get finicky, depending on the editing software you were using.  As standards go it was often quite frustrating how loosey-goosey they were, speaking dialects of ieee1394 but not quite the same language.

Not much has changed, really, with these same manufacturers and modern cameras though now you get access to a filesystem with flavors of MP4 that everyone has their own special blend of.  At least you don't have to worry about tape transports anymore and drop-outs or a drop-frame or device dropping off the bus that could lock your whole system up because, my guess, Firewire hooks into the OS at a fairly low level and likes to misbehave.  FW800 improved reliability a little, for drives.  I can't tell you how many times I've wanted to smash original Firewire gear though, drives, cameras, you name it.  It's never to be trusted to just work.
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Offline trekiejTopic starter

Re: Fire Wire Camera
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2014, 03:55:50 AM »
yikes
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Re: Fire Wire Camera
« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2014, 05:14:29 AM »
Yeah, they had speed advantages over USB and USB2.0 but I've found that standard and those devices to generally be better behaved, regardless of platform, than any version of Firewire technology I've ever used.  I'm kinda glad it's over because it never lived up to its potential as a standard, either because of poor implementation by the hardware manufacturers or meddling by groups like the MPAA.