Amiga 600 the worst?

[amiman99]

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I just put a $50 passive ISA PC SBC in mine to use dual purpose with Windows.

I did that too: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=68952&highlight=sbc

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

I did that too: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=68952&highlight=sbc

I considered that with mine.  Got about as far as thinking if I really wanted to do it right, I'd need to turn the other 8-bit ISA slots into 16-bit by soldering on the additional connectors, so I could use video card, sound card, etc.  The connectors can be bought all day long on ebay for like a buck, but all that extra soldering... ugh!  Dang you cost-cutting Commodore!  

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Oh, and the A600 is awesome now, with all the upgrades you can buy for it that are still being developed/produced.  Way more than for the A2000 at this point, unfortunately.  C'mon, somebody make some new A2000 accelerators with all these modern goodies on 'em!  

[amiman99]

I considered that with mine.  Got about as far as thinking if I really wanted to do it right, I'd need to turn the other 8-bit ISA slots into 16-bit by soldering on the additional connectors, so I could use video card, sound card, etc.  The connectors can be bought all day long on ebay for like a buck, but all that extra soldering... ugh!  Dang you cost-cutting Commodore!  

The hardest part wasn't the soldering, it was the disassembly and assembly of the A2000.
Most SBC come with Video card and LAN and all IDE, floppy controllers, so you only need a good Sound Blaster sound card, and also I wouldn't bother with a 486 SBCs, it's just too slow.

As far as the A600 for being the worst, I think it was back then, when compatibility was important and HDs were expensive.
Now, A600 is one of the more desirable Amigas, because includes the IDE, PCMCIA, color video out and it's compact. You can get fairly priced accelerators, mem expansions, run WHDLOAD games, etc.
One problem I have with A600 is the crappy CAPACITORS :furious:

[XDelusion]

With upgrades, if you are looking for a compact system, the 600 is really the way to go in my book. I got mine recapped and I'm loving it!!!

[mrmoonlight]

With upgrades, if you are looking for a compact system, the 600 is really the way to go in my book. I got mine recapped and I'm loving it!!!

 
 Hi and I think I should start thinking about having mine recapped although she still blasts out a good tune
.best wishes Brian.

[magnetic]

Bro that opinion was written when a600 was the worst amiga as they werent any PCMCIA drivers for internet, compact flash to ide and all that. IMHO nowadays A600 is one of the best amigas as you get ECS, 2mb chip easy, IDE interface standard and cool accerator boards (which didnt exsist before)

[magnetic]

Hi and I think I should start thinking about having mine recapped although she still blasts out a good tune
.best wishes Brian.

Brian you didnt take my advice before please do now DONT FIX IT IF IT AINT BROKEN. Dont replace the caps unless the machine fails.

[mrmoonlight]

Brian you didnt take my advice before please do now DONT FIX IT IF IT AINT BROKEN. Dont replace the caps unless the machine fails.

 
 Hey Magnetic you are right my friend it took me hours to sort the last mess out and you said it was not a good idea to install the other two Boing bags so I will leave having the caps replaced until they begin to fail, as for the worst Amiga being the 600 it was wrote many moons ago  
      but I just found it outrages that anyone could even suggest that the A600 was the worst at anything, but  like folk have pointed out we have a wealth of add on accessories and kippers ACA620EC Accelerator sure did take her from a Mini to a RollsRoyce  and boy what fun the nearly forgotten little A600 turned out be, very best wishes Brian.

[Brian]

When the A600 was new it wasn't a very good machine. It was my first and I bought it with a massive 40MB harddrive but after upgrading it with 2MB chip I was pritty stuck. Sure there where PCMCIA fastmem you could expand with but it was very expencive.

Many years later we got drivers for PCMCIA NIC and CF. We got clockport for further expansion with sound and/or USB, with A603 and later we also have scandoubler possibilities with the IndivisionECS and lets not forget that after ACA630 there have been a wave of CPU and FastMem solutions in it's wake to fill the void after dead Apolloboards. So today it's a realy nifty little machine and certainly doesn't deserv the branding it once received due to lack of expandability.

[F0LLETT]

A600 and CD32 are my all time favorite machines.
And yes, I absolutely love the CD32 Joypad.
A600 is just so sexy, .

[mrmoonlight]

When the A600 was new it wasn't a very good machine. It was my first and I bought it with a massive 40MB harddrive but after upgrading it with 2MB chip I was pritty stuck. Sure there where PCMCIA fastmem you could expand with but it was very expencive.

Many years later we got drivers for PCMCIA NIC and CF. We got clockport for further expansion with sound and/or USB, with A603 and later we also have scandoubler possibilities with the IndivisionECS and lets not forget that after ACA630 there have been a wave of CPU and FastMem solutions in it's wake to fill the void after dead Apolloboards. So today it's a realy nifty little machine and certainly doesn't deserv the branding it once received due to lack of expandability.

Hi I think the more I read of the wonderful posts that have come in the more I can understand why the 600 was tagged with worst of the Amiga's as it seems it lacked quite a few ingredients to give it that wow factor and I think we should be very grateful to the dedicated folk who have toiled over all the software and hardware they have created to give us the brilliant little Amiga 600 of today , my very best wishes and thanks for your post Brian. ps below is my Amiga Beatle screen. sad or what lol

[Ancalimon]

1: A4000T
2: A1200
3: A4000
4: A3000T
5: A3000
6: A600
5: A500
7: the rest

So in my book it's not the worst.

[scuzzb494]

You need to be mindful of not reading things out of context. You appear to be making a generalisation based around what you are using the machine for today. In the days of the A4000, A1200, A600 and CD32 the A600 was the worst. The one I had was not even capable of supporting a hard drive. Yet my A1200 was accelerator friendly out of the box and ran rings round the A600. The A600 was really never one thing or another. It was not really suited as a games machine and was just not able to be expanded with ease. It really was a bit of a toy generally and used by those that didn't really treat their computing seriously. And if you were giving advice in the day there is no way you would suggest to anyone that wanted a machine that would last to consider anything other than a 1200 or 4000 which were the current best machines for the period. The A600 was pretty much dead in the water the day they released the A1200.

And for the comments from another about the 2000... different era.

When I bought my 1200 the shop was split into two halves. On the left was Amiga and on the right was PC. When greeted at the door the shop attendant would always point me to the more fun and entertaining Amiga section. There was only A1200s and A4000s on show. If you wanted an A600 you would have to go to Dixons or Jessops where they sold them with their cameras and video players. My sister had an A600 just to play Pictionary. The A600 just was not treated seriously, sorry.

As for today, well that is a different story. A great tool and fun to dabble with. Just get one that supports hard drives. No amount of creative mount lists ever got my first 600 to work with a hard drive. So I bought another that did. I must have a dozen 600s. Don't use them. The 4000s and 1200s still rule here.

http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/amiga_scuzz93.htm

[mrmoonlight]

You need to be mindful of not reading things out of context. You appear to be making a generalisation based around what you are using the machine for today. In the days of the A4000, A1200, A600 and CD32 the A600 was the worst. The one I had was not even capable of supporting a hard drive. Yet my A1200 was accelerator friendly out of the box and ran rings round the A600. The A600 was really never one thing or another. It was not really suited as a games machine and was just not able to be expanded with ease. It really was a bit of a toy generally and used by those that didn't really treat their computing seriously. And if you were giving advice in the day there is no way you would suggest to anyone that wanted a machine that would last to consider anything other than a 1200 or 4000 which were the current best machines for the period. The A600 was pretty much dead in the water the day they released the A1200.

And for the comments from another about the 2000... different era.

When I bought my 1200 the shop was split into two halves. On the left was Amiga and on the right was PC. When greeted at the door the shop attendant would always point me to the more fun and entertaining Amiga section. There was only A1200s and A4000s on show. If you wanted an A600 you would have to go to Dixons or Jessops where they sold them with their cameras and video players. My sister had an A600 just to play Pictionary. The A600 just was not treated seriously, sorry.

As for today, well that is a different story. A great tool and fun to dabble with. Just get one that supports hard drives. No amount of creative mount lists ever got my first 600 to work with a hard drive. So I bought another that did. I must have a dozen 600s. Don't use them. The 4000s and 1200s still rule here.

http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/amiga_scuzz93.htm

Well I have just read a passage out of your retro link above lol and it does not get any better does it
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 Machines like the A600 were used by kids as a games
console so they would have generally been constantly bombarded
with disks, and further, the ports would have been plugged in
and plugged out many many times. The A600 did not expand easily
and only certain A600s supported the hard-drive so the floppy
usage is a killer
       lol  nice read up my friend very best wishes Brian.

[mrmoonlight]

1: A4000T
2: A1200
3: A4000
4: A3000T
5: A3000
6: A600
5: A500
7: the rest

So in my book it's not the worst.

Well that's that then lol :laughing: best wishes Brian.