Why was there nothing after os 3.9?

[magnetic]

Mr. Moonlight

I'm so sorry man i tried to tell you.

But I was just "trolling" and "baseless" what a farce.

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

You can please some of the people all the time, and all of the people some of the time, but not all the people all the time.  They installed great for me, zero issues and I like having my system as "up to date as possible".  Obviously with 20+ year old hardware and software, your mileage may vary.  Glad you made that backup!  

[mrmoonlight]

You can please some of the people all the time, and all of the people some of the time, but not all the people all the time. They installed great for me, zero issues and I like having my system as "up to date as possible". Obviously with 20+ year old hardware and software, your mileage may vary. Glad you made that backup!

Hi what I did find is that if I left the start up alone it booted fine but if I left the booting up to the program it would never boot up and I have to say I am not good enough to know exactly what was wrong,but I have got the boing bags installed now but with a start up that has not been altered and I have no clue if this is ok lol and happy days I did a back up best wishes Brian.

[mrmoonlight]

Hi I have an Amiga 1200 and I have just installed all four boing bags which I wish I had not as 1and 2 went in fine and 3 and 4 certainly did not as it stopped by computer booting. the only way I could make it run with the boing bags was to completely ignore the start-up sequence that was asking to install automatically or install manually so i did nothing which I did and the Amiga ran wonderfully well but my question is what difference if any will this action mean as in will something that should happen not now happen if you get my drift best wishes Brian.

[stefcep2]

Hi I have an Amiga 1200 and I have just installed all four boing bags which I wish I had not as 1and 2 went in fine and 3 and 4 certainly did not as it stopped by computer booting. the only way I could make it run with the boing bags was to completely ignore the start-up sequence that was asking to install automatically or install manually so i did nothing which I did and the Amiga ran wonderfully well but my question is what difference if any will this action mean as in will something that should happen not now happen if you get my drift best wishes Brian.

Make sure you have the latest version of the BB4.

AFAIR you need to boot after installing BB3 before installing BB4.

The new startup- sequences add some patches to the kickstart ROM 3.1.  Its likely one of these is causing a conflict. Also some things are added to WBStartup drawer which may be doing the same.

[mrmoonlight]

Make sure you have the latest version of the BB4.

AFAIR you need to boot after installing BB3 before installing BB4.

The new startup- sequences add some patches to the kickstart ROM 3.1. Its likely one of these is causing a conflict. Also some things are added to WBStartup drawer which may be doing the same.

 
 Hi thank you my friend truly grateful for your help, I carefully followed all the literature to the last word using a cold boot when asked too, and bare in mind I installed the boing bags at the same time to both the Amiga 1200 and the Amiga 600 and once the automatic start up had altered the start-up sequence both the 1200 and the 600 failed to boot so having made up emergency boot discs soon had both up and running and started to proceed  with the installation again but choosing not to alter the start up sequence and I have to say both machines are powering along and hard to fault, so I may leave well alone, very best wishes Brian.

[psxphill]

That's got SFA to do with "luck". That's what you call "stupid".

It's stupid when you aren't successful, it's dumb luck when it works.
 
 Commodore survived on dumb luck for a long time. It was only really Commodore UK that ever marketed anything successfully. Even then the batpack in 1989 was the pinnacle of cool, it went down hill from there.

[danbeaver]

I think they survived on brilliant engineering and were brought down by greed and mismanagement.

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Hi thank you my friend truly grateful for your help, I carefully followed all the literature to the last word using a cold boot when asked too, and bare in mind I installed the boing bags at the same time to both the Amiga 1200 and the Amiga 600 and once the automatic start up had altered the start-up sequence both the 1200 and the 600 failed to boot so having made up emergency boot discs soon had both up and running and started to proceed with the installation again but choosing not to alter the start up sequence and I have to say both machines are powering along and hard to fault, so I may leave well alone, very best wishes Brian.

I'm having a really hard time understanding what you're saying here.  Not trying to come across like a jerk, but could you use some periods in your sentences?  

If you're still having trouble, try posting a copy of your startup-sequence and maybe someone here can help you figure out why it's not booting?  Another thing I've done before that I found helpful was to put an "echo 1" "echo 2", etc., between each line of the startup-sequence.  Then as each line executes it will print a number on the screen.  This can help you determine where it's crashing.  Good luck!  

[mrmoonlight]

I'm having a really hard time understanding what you're saying here. Not trying to come across like a jerk, but could you use some periods in your sentences?

If you're still having trouble, try posting a copy of your startup-sequence and maybe someone here can help you figure out why it's not booting? Another thing I've done before that I found helpful was to put an "echo 1" "echo 2", etc., between each line of the startup-sequence. Then as each line executes it will print a number on the screen. This can help you determine where it's crashing. Good luck!

Hey sorry I am not to clear about what's happening but  basically if I install  1 and 2 boing bags then she runs like a dream
 
        but when I install 3 and 4  afterwards she doesn't boot  or if she makes any attempt she crashes so I am going to leave it as it is because she is sweet at the moment, thanks anyway ,best wishes Brian.

[guest11527]

If you're still having trouble, try posting a copy of your startup-sequence and maybe someone here can help you figure out why it's not booting?  Another thing I've done before that I found helpful was to put an "echo 1" "echo 2", etc., between each line of the startup-sequence.  Then as each line executes it will print a number on the screen.  This can help you determine where it's crashing.  Good luck!  

That's all needlessly complicated. If you're using the latest Amiga Shell, and make it resident with "LoadModule", then insert the following line on top of the startup-sequence:

Code: [Select]

set interactive on Afterwards, the Shell will prompt each command, and will ask you to confirm its execution. If you enter a "Y" or press return, the command is executed. If you press "N", the command is skipped. If you press "Q" the shell will return to normal execution.

[klx300r]

That's all needlessly complicated. If you're using the latest Amiga Shell, and make it resident with "LoadModule", then insert the following line on top of the startup-sequence:

Code: [Select]

set interactive on Afterwards, the Shell will prompt each command, and will ask you to confirm its execution. If you enter a "Y" or press return, the command is executed. If you press "N", the command is skipped. If you press "Q" the shell will return to normal execution.

many thanks Thomas! I totally forgot about that useful command line & it'll come in handy for me now as I battle with my 1200T & mediator:)

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

That is an awesome tip.  I'm sure I'll forget all about it by the next time I need to use it, lol.    Thanks though!  :drink:

[magnetic]

@magnetic:



Why spread baseless FUD? A system with BB4 is more stable than one with BB2, not less, due to the number of known BB2 bugs that have been fixed. ]

So minous are you going to apologize to me for saying i'm spreading FUD or what?

[Minuous]

So minous are you going to apologize to me for saying i'm spreading FUD or what?

No, I still haven't received a proper bug report from you or anyone else. How am I expected to organize a fix for the issue with such a vague and unhelpful "bug report" as this? Especially when I very likely did not code the component in question and don't even have source to most components. With a non-existent bug report I would not even know whether I had fixed the user's problem or not. If a bug can't be reproduced and isolated then it can't be fixed.

BTW you have incorrectly quoted me, I didn't say you were "trolling", I assume(d) you said what you said in good faith and just didn't consider the possible damage that could be caused. If you don't want to use it, don't, but better not to make silly statements in public forums if you couldn't even be bothered to lodge a bug report. I'm not even talking about a formal bug report, just enough info for me to investigate the issue.

The fact that supposedly it "doesn't work" on one person's system doesn't mean it's not worth installing for the 99% of users that have not had any issues with it. Obviously I don't have a huge test lab with every different configuration of Amiga available and thus rely to an extent on bug reports. IIRC there were even issues with the official BB2 ROM Update not working on certain Amigas.

If I suddenly started going around in public forums saying "OS4 doesn't work", and refusing to give specifics so that the issue could be resolved, would you then expect Hyperion to apologize to me? I suspect I'd be more likely to see a libel suit from them than an apology in that case, and with good reason.

[matthey]

@Minuous
You have been doing a good job with the BoingBags and most users appreciate the effort.

The unofficial BoingBag components are mostly improvements but configuring them on every Amiga variation is error prone, not to mention the old hardware is becoming less reliable.