Why was there nothing after os 3.9?

[mrmoonlight]

Hi I have a slightly souped up Amiga 1200 nothing special just a few small upgrades that make it run os 3.9 brilliantly so why was there nothing after, that may have been really good and still worked on a slightly upgraded Amiga 1200 or is there some thing, best:) wishes Brian.

[wawrzon]

Hi I have a slightly souped up Amiga 1200 nothing special just a few small upgrades that make it run os 3.9 brilliantly so why was there nothing after, that may have been really good and still worked on a slightly upgraded Amiga 1200 or is there some thing, best:) wishes Brian.

There is. Google boing bags especially inoficial ones #3 and 4. These are upgrades to 3.9

[mrmoonlight]

There is. Google boing bags especially inoficial ones #3 and 4. These are upgrades to 3.9

 
 Hi you are correct there are and I never managed to get both that actually worked so if any one knows where all the good ones are, I would be very grateful, best wishes Brian.

[giZmo350]

Hey Brian, this is the download location recommended by EAB.
http://lilliput.amiga-projects.net/start.htm
Hope this helps.
BTW, I used these downloads and IIRC they worked without problems.

The (very long) EAB Thread....
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=52707

[magnetic]

I wouldnt call "boing bag 3 and 4" stable and proper releases of amiga os. There are MANY hacks/patches in those updates. Some good some bad.

But mainly there were licensing problems.

[number6]

I wouldnt call "boing bag 3 and 4" stable and proper releases of amiga os. There are MANY hacks/patches in those updates. Some good some bad.

But mainly there were licensing problems.

apparently some of this was vague at the time this post was made

#6

[magnetic]

number 6
Thanks for the link interesting read. My old partner and I actually had the rights obtained from Ainc for the "Powered by Amiga" logo.

[wawrzon]

i dont see whats illegal about the boing bags, so far i remember they are distributed as patches to modules and libraries, so they dont contain anything questionable afair. and gathering these patches together must be seen simply as an effort to provide an inexperienced user with a working set. at the time i patched my kickstart together i had to gather bits and pieces mostly myself, i value such an initiative and dont understand the reason to make it bad.

[agami]

Given the circumstances there could and should have been additional releases, perhaps an OS 3.10 or  OS 4.0 (68k)
AROS 68k looks interesting.

[stefcep2]

i've been using BB4 on an A4000 68060 CGX 4 system for about 12 months.

Initially I did have a problem with a menu utility form aminet, but that got fixed.

Since then, I've enjoyed the fastest, most reliable and prettiest OS 3.9 (Kens Icons) set up I've ever had.

[guest11527]

Hi I have a slightly souped up Amiga 1200 nothing special just a few small upgrades that make it run os 3.9 brilliantly so why was there nothing after, that may have been really good and still worked on a slightly upgraded Amiga 1200 .

Simply because it wouldn't be profitable. Look, if you already compare the money I got from Os 3.9 development to what a software developer would get on the market for writing PC software, then this was really a joke. I did it for the fun of it, not for the money. Os 3.9 sold, but given the number of copies it sold it was barely worth the trouble for anyone, including the company that organized its development, namely H&P. Os 4.0 came after 3.9, and the scheme Hyperion seems to be using (as far as I can tell) is to make at least some money on the hardware to finance the software development. Funding a company from Amiga software alone wouldn't simply work anymore - the community is too small, and is not willing to spend enough money on a new release to make this viable.

The only way how this could work would be to use a different development model, probably some open source type model that would give interested parties free access to the sources, plus probably a test farm and a centralized repository, probably with some official net-based releases from time to time that have been verified and tested. It seems, however, that Hyperion (the current license owner of Amiga Os) is not interested in this model - likely because it would compete with their Os 4 development, and hence would diminish their Os 4 sales. I understand and respect this, but it also means that we're trapped with either outdated software, or private hackery based on inaccurate information on how AmigaOs is working - pretty sad, but that's reality.

[stefcep2]

@Thomas.

The various owners/ people who have claimed ownership have only themselves to blame for not making money on AmigaOS software.

The way I saw the situation was like a several people tugging at a roast chicken in different directions, and it ending up on the floor in several pieces that no-one could enjoy.

[psxphill]

The various owners/ people who have claimed ownership have only themselves to blame for not making money on AmigaOS software.
 
The way I saw the situation was like a several people tugging at a roast chicken in different directions, and it ending up on the floor in several pieces that no-one could enjoy.

That is what happens when people get hungry, but it doesn't mean that without the fighting there would have been enough money to go around or even sustain one of the companies for long.
 
Some people will carry on doing it for love, some people will carry on doing it because they don't want to let go, others will carry on because they don't know what else to do. But Amiga software hasn't been the most profitable way to spend your time for decades.

[amigakid]

Is there a way to Purchase OS 3.9?  I bought OS 3.5 a long while ago and never upgraded to 3.9.  Can I still by a legal original copy of it?

[mrmoonlight]

Simply because it wouldn't be profitable. Look, if you already compare the money I got from Os 3.9 development to what a software developer would get on the market for writing PC software, then this was really a joke. I did it for the fun of it, not for the money. Os 3.9 sold, but given the number of copies it sold it was barely worth the trouble for anyone, including the company that organized its development, namely H&P. Os 4.0 came after 3.9, and the scheme Hyperion seems to be using (as far as I can tell) is to make at least some money on the hardware to finance the software development. Funding a company from Amiga software alone wouldn't simply work anymore - the community is too small, and is not willing to spend enough money on a new release to make this viable.

The only way how this could work would be to use a different development model, probably some open source type model that would give interested parties free access to the sources, plus probably a test farm and a centralized repository, probably with some official net-based releases from time to time that have been verified and tested. It seems, however, that Hyperion (the current license owner of Amiga Os) is not interested in this model - likely because it would compete with their Os 4 development, and hence would diminish their Os 4 sales. I understand and respect this, but it also means that we're trapped with either outdated software, or private hackery based on inaccurate information on how AmigaOs is working - pretty sad, but that's reality.

 
 Hi truly thank you for your honest reply, and can I just point  out I am no way well versed in the Amiga apart from the fact that I think that they are one hell of an amazing computer and when os 3.9 came out the Amiga became a bright star in a very dark sky, so much so the children in my house hold were queuing up   to get on her and that included myself.
          surely this was the time too build on the os 3.9 and begin what would have been os 4.0 and surely the icing on the cake and then any thing really good always sells and we would have had a winner which just maybe would have paid for itself instead there was nothing but boing   bags, and don't get me wrong I appreciate all the effort  that went in to them, but history repeats itself and again we were so near and we let it all slip away, so sad   but 3.9 rolls on ,very best wishes to you, Brian.