Warp3D and a Radeon 9250 ?

[wawrzon]

Well i managed to run in 640 x 480 with the radeon and by heck its slow, once i have got xmas out the way i will be saving my pennies for a new accelerator hopefully atleast an 060

Lets hope gunnars fpga accel is available soon for all amiga models;-)

[Lurch]

There was a Voodoo 3 forsale on Amibay for 10 GBP, has sold though. I'd post a wanted ad on there you'll usually get a quick reply and a better price than Ebay. :-)

Some people will say there's no speed difference between the Voodoo 3 and Voodoo 5 5500 but there is, and the extra RAM on the Voodoo 5 is great :-)

Only downside is that the Voodoo drivers only support one of the GPUs on the Voodoo 5 :-/

[Lurch]

Well i managed to run in 640 x 480 with the radeon and by heck its slow, once i have got xmas out the way i will be saving my pennies for a new accelerator hopefully atleast an 060

It will be slow as the Radeon doesn't support 3d so no hardware acceleration.

[pVC]

It will be slow as the Radeon doesn't support 3d so no hardware acceleration.

Faster CPU helps a lot in software rendering.

[carvedeye]

I own both the cards but i have more ram on the Radeon which is 128mb im only using 31mb of the card and the rest im using as fast ram but the voodoo card i have only has 16mb so i really dont want to have to go back to using that gfx card

Is it possible to have both the radeon and the voodoo in the same sytem?

[wawrzon]

I own both the cards but i have more ram on the Radeon which is 128mb im only using 31mb of the card and the rest im using as fast ram but the voodoo card i have only has 16mb so i really dont want to have to go back to using that gfx card

Is it possible to have both the radeon and the voodoo in the same sytem?

Whats the use of the better card when there is no propper drivers to take advantage of it? Voodoo is good enough for good 2d high res workbench and apps. 64mb on accel should be enough for most tasks. Radeon ram is very slow for system memory anyway.

[matthey]

Some people will say there's no speed difference between the Voodoo 3 and Voodoo 5 5500 but there is, and the extra RAM on the Voodoo 5 is great :-)

Only downside is that the Voodoo drivers only support one of the GPUs on the Voodoo 5 :-/

My Voodoo 4 performs better with deeper and higher resolution screens but my Voodoo 3 with SGRAM is faster in memory and for some 2D operations. The extra memory is nice but the extra cost is not unless finding a bargain. The Voodoo 4 doesn't need an extra power supply like the Voodoo 5 so it is more practical. The Elbox 2D drivers have problems with big endian modes on the Voodoo 4/5 and the latest voodoo.card and pci.library don't work at all. A Voodoo 3 3000 with SGRAM is competitive with the Voodoo 4/5 in a Mediator and is one of the fastest and best 2D/3D gfx solutions for any classic Amiga.

I own both the cards but i have more ram on the Radeon which is 128mb im only using 31mb of the card and the rest im using as fast ram but the voodoo card i have only has 16mb so i really dont want to have to go back to using that gfx card

Is it possible to have both the radeon and the voodoo in the same sytem?

Yes, it's possible to have both the Voodoo and Radeon cards at the same time. It's been supported for awhile now by the Elbox drivers. All 128MB of the faster Radeon memory could be used for memory and DMA buffers (for fast ethernet) while the Voodoo 3 is completely used for 2D and 3D gfx. There isn't going to be a big difference in the 2D performance between the Radeon and Voodoo so you wouldn't be giving up much.

[carvedeye]

My Voodoo 4 performs better with deeper and higher resolution screens but my Voodoo 3 with SGRAM is faster in memory and for some 2D operations. The extra memory is nice but the extra cost is not unless finding a bargain. The Voodoo 4 doesn't need an extra power supply like the Voodoo 5 so it is more practical. The Elbox 2D drivers have problems with big endian modes on the Voodoo 4/5 and the latest voodoo.card and pci.library don't work at all. A Voodoo 3 3000 with SGRAM is competitive with the Voodoo 4/5 in a Mediator and is one of the fastest and best 2D/3D gfx solutions for any classic Amiga.



Yes, it's possible to have both the Voodoo and Radeon cards at the same time. It's been supported for awhile now by the Elbox drivers. All 128MB of the faster Radeon memory could be used for memory and DMA buffers (for fast ethernet) while the Voodoo 3 is completely used for 2D and 3D gfx. There isn't going to be a big difference in the 2D performance between the Radeon and Voodoo so you wouldn't be giving up much.

Thanks mate thats great

[yssing]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3dfx-3Dfx-Voodoo3-2000-16-MB-PCI-video-adapter-card-Rare-Tested-/161360656440?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item2591d83838

There are some Voodoo3 on ebay

[Lurch]

My Voodoo 4 performs better with deeper and higher resolution screens but my Voodoo 3 with SGRAM is faster in memory and for some 2D operations. The extra memory is nice but the extra cost is not unless finding a bargain. The Voodoo 4 doesn't need an extra power supply like the Voodoo 5 so it is more practical. The Elbox 2D drivers have problems with big endian modes on the Voodoo 4/5 and the latest voodoo.card and pci.library don't work at all. A Voodoo 3 3000 with SGRAM is competitive with the Voodoo 4/5 in a Mediator and is one of the fastest and best 2D/3D gfx solutions for any classic Amiga.

Would have to disagree, even Doom/quake runs a lot better with the Voodoo 5 card over my Voodoo 3. Plus workbench runs smoother and I can get 1920x1080 with high true colour (or whatever it is) so if one can get a really good deal (which come up quite often on Amibay) I'd get the Voodoo 5.

The display also looks sharper, doesn't compare to the ATI card for 2D though.

I can also over clock the Vooodoo 5 higher than I could with the Voodoo 3 and the gains can be seen in frame rate. The latest drivers work fine for me. As for it needing additional power  it's no different than plugging in a HDD so not really a good reason to not get a Voodoo 5 if you can.

So from a real world point of view Voodoo 5 ftw.

Currently I'm using 256MB of RAM from the Radeon 9200 as system memory and a 16MB from the Voodoo 5. Which proved to be the best combo for gaming 3d/2d performance.

[matthey]

Would have to disagree, even Doom/quake runs a lot better with the Voodoo 5 card over my Voodoo 3. Plus workbench runs smoother and I can get 1920x1080 with high true colour (or whatever it is) so if one can get a really good deal (which come up quite often on Amibay) I'd get the Voodoo 5.

The VSA-100/Napalm is more powerful but it only shows with deep screens at high resolutions which I have observed also. I have a fast 68060 and it can't push anything over 800x600 in 3D so it's useless for 3D. There is enough CPU power for higher resolutions and depth in 2D but then the Voodoo 3 is only a hair behind here also. With my Voodoo 3 3000 with SGRAM, I get faster I/O bus throughput and gfx memory speeds than my Voodoo 4. This mainly helps with lower depths and CPU dependent gfx operations.

The display also looks sharper, doesn't compare to the ATI card for 2D though.

I agree and this was a well known fact back in the day. The Voodoo 4-5 has a sharper display than the Voodoo 3. I consider this a minor advantage though.

I can also over clock the Voodoo 5 higher than I could with the Voodoo 3 and the gains can be seen in frame rate. The latest drivers work fine for me. As for it needing additional power  it's no different than plugging in a HDD so not really a good reason to not get a Voodoo 5 if you can.

That's interesting because my Voodoo 3 was way more overclockable than my Voodoo 4 which I am not overclocking at all now (it had pixel problems with minor overclocking and the VSA-100 supposedly burns out easy with overclocking). My Voodoo 3 3000 would overclock by 20% easy and all day with no extra heat sinks or cooling. I never found the limit of overclocking but I stopped because the gains were minor and I don't like aggressive overclocking. Maybe the VSA-100s in your Voodoo 5 received a die shrink which would help with overclocking and power consumption.