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Warp3D and a Radeon 9250 ?
« on: July 17, 2014, 10:00:46 PM »
Hi all i have just installed Payback Demo and im trying to run it in hardware mode but when i run setup i only get the software renderer option and the Hardware renderer is greyed out, so would i need to install warp3d in order to use the radeon card?
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Re: Warp3D and a Radeon 9250 ?
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2014, 10:21:17 PM »
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Hi all i have just installed Payback Demo and im trying to run it in hardware mode but when i run setup i only get the software renderer option and the Hardware renderer is greyed out, so would i need to install warp3d in order to use the radeon card?


There is no AmigaOS 3.x 68k Warp3D support for any Radeon card. You either need to install a Voodoo 3-5 gfx card or use AmigaOS 4.x PPC which does have a Radeon Warp3D driver.
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Re: Warp3D and a Radeon 9250 ?
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2014, 10:27:09 PM »
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Hi all i have just installed Payback Demo and im trying to run it in hardware mode but when i run setup i only get the software renderer option and the Hardware renderer is greyed out, so would i need to install warp3d in order to use the radeon card?

There is no warp3d driver for radeons except under os4. The voodoo w3d driver was comissionfed and funded by elbox, but since amiga is considered obsolete it has been stated os4 developments will not be backported to it. Not for free at least.
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Re: Warp3D and a Radeon 9250 ?
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2014, 10:32:51 PM »
Matt, look at his sig. He has an 030 setup. You are not telling him to buy ppc to play a game?
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Re: Warp3D and a Radeon 9250 ?
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2014, 11:17:25 PM »
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Matt, look at his sig. He has an 030 setup. You are not telling him to buy ppc to play a game?


He is just telling him, that the only way to get Warp3D for Radeon is by using AOS 4.x
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Re: Warp3D and a Radeon 9250 ?
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2014, 11:25:19 PM »
So is there a way to get it to run using the radeon?
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Re: Warp3D and a Radeon 9250 ?
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2014, 11:27:32 PM »
No not unless you install a PPC card and install AOS4.
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Re: Warp3D and a Radeon 9250 ?
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2014, 11:31:56 PM »
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No not unless you install a PPC card and install AOS4.


But in the specs it says it can run under os3x with rtg and a minimum of an 020?
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Re: Warp3D and a Radeon 9250 ?
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2014, 11:51:45 PM »
Yes, but there is no Warp3D driver for Radeon under 3.x/68k

The solution is either a Voodoo card or a PPC card, which are way overpriced.
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Re: Warp3D and a Radeon 9250 ?
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2014, 11:53:22 PM »
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Yes, but there is no Warp3D driver for Radeon under 3.x/68k

The solution is either a Voodoo card or a PPC card, which are way overpriced.


Oh well :(

Are there any RTG games that can run on a radeon card ?
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Re: Warp3D and a Radeon 9250 ?
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2014, 11:58:36 PM »
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He is just telling him, that the only way to get Warp3D for Radeon is by using AOS 4.x


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Matt, look at his sig. He has an 030 setup. You are not telling him to buy ppc to play a game?


There are 2 logical options to use Warp3D with hardware acceleration for Payback. Buy a Voodoo 3+ card or buy a PPC accelerator/computer. The 1st option costs $50/30Euros and will be slow with a 68030 and the 2nd option costs at least 10x as much and would be much faster. It would be nice if we had more options but it does simplify the options. I suppose there is UAE+W3D hardware if some emulation counts.

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But in the specs it says it can run under os3x with rtg and a minimum of an 020?


That may be true but the specs are for the software renderer. Isn't an FPU required also? Warp3D at least requires an FPU (the Voodoo/Avenger W3D driver requires a 68040 or 68060 but I have a version that should work with the 68020 and 68030). RTG can be 2D without 3D.
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Re: Warp3D and a Radeon 9250 ?
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2014, 09:29:18 AM »
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So is there a way to get it to run using the radeon?


Not in hardware (3D accelerated) renderer, but it should run in software renderer on RTG (Radeon) screen too. Although 030 might not be enough for ejoyable gaming, but try with lower resolutions.
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Re: Warp3D and a Radeon 9250 ?
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2014, 10:35:36 AM »
Well i managed to run in 640 x 480 with the radeon and by heck its slow, once i have got xmas out the way i will be saving my pennies for a new accelerator hopefully atleast an 060 :)
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Re: Warp3D and a Radeon 9250 ?
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2014, 10:54:55 AM »
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Well i managed to run in 640 x 480 with the radeon and by heck its slow, once i have got xmas out the way i will be saving my pennies for a new accelerator hopefully atleast an 060 :)

Yeah, 320x240 would be probably only resolution worth to try with your current setup. If the speed would be ok, gfx would still be a bit blocky and quite little stuff fits on screen then :)
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Re: Warp3D and a Radeon 9250 ?
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2014, 11:13:11 AM »
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Well i managed to run in 640 x 480 with the radeon and by heck its slow, once i have got xmas out the way i will be saving my pennies for a new accelerator hopefully atleast an 060 :)

Lets hope gunnars fpga accel is available soon for all amiga models;-)
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