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NetSurf-m68k
« on: July 17, 2014, 09:16:52 AM »
Yesterday I downloaded NetSurf-m68k from
http://aminet.net/package/comm/www/NetSurf-m68k
and installed it on my system to give it a try.

But I cannot start it - after double-clicking the icon it loads for a while. Then - all of a sudden - my Miggy crashes and reboots.

I also tried it with SnoopDOS running - but I cannot look fast enough to see what the last action was and why it failed when the system crashes.  

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A4000 with CSPPC 128mB; Mediator & Voodoo4 PCI, Terratec 512i digital PCI and 10/100 mBit PCI NIC; Deneb USB 2.0 (Zorro III); OS 3.9 w. BBs 1 & 2 / WarpOS 16.1

Does anyone here have an idea what could be going wrong there?
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Re: NetSurf-m68k
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2014, 10:12:37 AM »
Did the older version work?

I am running Netsurf using WinUAE, and it works fine there.
 

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Re: NetSurf-m68k
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2014, 11:09:19 AM »
First of all the last version of bernds ixemul library. Dunno if its included. Should be something like v 63.1. Google it. Amigasf oder so.
Then snoopdos can save a log or output to serial. OPtion is in front of you. If you fear to corrupt the filesystem while crash install rad and save the log there.
Could be also stack issue. Especially runing afa. Check tooltypes or set high stack when running from shell.
Sorry im on a mobile.
 

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Re: NetSurf-m68k
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2014, 01:05:07 PM »
Quote from: yssing;769191


Did the older version work?

I am running Netsurf using WinUAE, and it works fine there.



It was the first time that I tried to test Netsurf - never had it installed before.
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Re: NetSurf-m68k
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2014, 01:05:41 PM »
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First of all the last version of bernds ixemul library. Dunno if its included. Should be something like v 63.1. Google it. Amigasf oder so.
Then snoopdos can save a log or output to serial. OPtion is in front of you. If you fear to corrupt the filesystem while crash install rad and save the log there.
Could be also stack issue. Especially runing afa. Check tooltypes or set high stack when running from shell.
Sorry im on a mobile.



I'll look into that tonight.
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Re: NetSurf-m68k
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2014, 01:18:48 PM »
Btw questions like that are best asked on eab.  There is a netsurf thread and Arti visits there as well. Developers and more experienced users are not frequenting awnet or here.
 

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Re: NetSurf-m68k
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2014, 10:56:59 AM »
Quote from: wawrzon;769200


Btw questions like that are best asked on eab.  There is a netsurf thread and Arti visits there as well. Developers and more experienced users are not frequenting awnet or here.



Yes - Artur sent me the latest version via mail. I'm going to try this one this weekend...
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Re: NetSurf-m68k
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2014, 11:44:27 AM »
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Yes - Artur sent me the latest version via mail. I'm going to try this one this weekend...

Great. Asking on awnet is useless as you see. But the aminet version should work too. I dont even think the screen depth plays a role. I think its stack as i didnt have such issue even on aros68k last week. Artis netsurf may be not an ultimate piece of programing art but its not so buggy and worthless as some like to claim
 

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Re: NetSurf-m68k
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2014, 01:44:08 PM »
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Great. Asking on awnet is useless as you see. But the aminet version should work too. I dont even think the screen depth plays a role. I think its stack as i didnt have such issue even on aros68k last week.



Artur told me the aminet version has problems with Voodoo graphic cards. The latest version he sent me is said to work fine with a Voodoo3.
I hope it also works with my Voodoo4.
I also discovered new drivers for the Mediator and Voodoo4/5 - perhaps that can also help...

Quote from: wawrzon;769292


Artis netsurf may be not an ultimate piece of programing art but its not so buggy and worthless as some like to claim



That's why I want to geet it running. This way I can see myself how useful NetSurf is on my 68060@50 mHz...once I get it to start...
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Re: NetSurf-m68k
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2014, 04:54:28 PM »
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Artur told me the aminet version has problems with Voodoo graphic cards. The latest version he sent me is said to work fine with a Voodoo3.
I hope it also works with my Voodoo4.
I also discovered new drivers for the Mediator and Voodoo4/5 - perhaps that can also help...



That's why I want to geet it running. This way I can see myself how useful NetSurf is on my 68060@50 mHz...once I get it to start...

I see. Thats probably due to migrating away from ixemul. Nova works on his own sdl lib that works on amiga screens and adds now rtg support. Artur links netsurf now against this afaik. The problem is the many inconsistent pixel formats of amiga rtg cards. I have a mediator and voodoo as well as p4 and cv64 maybe i can help begening of the week.
 

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Re: NetSurf-m68k
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2014, 04:59:34 PM »
Double post. Sorry.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2014, 05:08:17 PM by wawrzon »
 

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Re: NetSurf-m68k
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2014, 07:02:54 PM »
Quote from: Dandy;769299
Artur told me the aminet version has problems with Voodoo graphic cards. The latest version he sent me is said to work fine with a Voodoo3.
I hope it also works with my Voodoo4.
I also discovered new drivers for the Mediator and Voodoo4/5 - perhaps that can also help...


Ah, someone else who uses a Voodoo 4 in their Mediator. The new voodoo.card and pci.library updates from Elbox don't work for me:

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=74331

It's too bad as one of the improvements would allow to get rid of the BYTEREV/Swizzle in the Warp3D Voodoo/Avenger drivers speeding them up and shrinking the driver. Elbox has never fixed the big endian color problems for the Voodoo4+/Napalm so I'm not expecting much from them.
 

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Re: NetSurf-m68k
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2014, 07:20:11 PM »
Matt. Have you contacted elbox about it. From my experience one can talk to them. Maybe i could mediate being polish after all:-). But its you who would have to explain the problem. Do you have a solution in mind?
Because i suspect there is too few v4 users for them to care. Or they want to sell out own v3 stock.
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Re: NetSurf-m68k
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2014, 07:30:55 PM »
Quote from: wawrzon;769193


First of all the last version of bernds ixemul library. Dunno if its included. Should be something like v 63.1. Google it. Amigasf oder so.
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Where can I get the latest version? I googled it, but all I found was version 48.0 on Aminet - uploaded by a Benjamin_Niemann on 1999-10-14.

EDIT:
The version of the ixemul.library installed on my system is 63.1.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2014, 07:39:19 PM by Dandy »
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Re: NetSurf-m68k
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2014, 08:20:35 PM »
Quote from: Dandy;769325
Where can I get the latest version? I googled it, but all I found was version 48.0 on Aminet - uploaded by a Benjamin_Niemann on 1999-10-14.

EDIT:
The version of the ixemul.library installed on my system is 63.1.


I think this might be it.

http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=6418
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