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Re: Amiga founder RJ Mical now works for Google
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2014, 02:17:36 PM »
Quoting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj_dlTSVPKw

Welcome to an even better Google future for all.
End of quoting.

I am amazed by his first sentences!

"We began to bring those computers home to play Solitary at first." He starts speaking about gaming and ... the first  - good to mention - gaming started with PCs? No mention to Amiga?

"We believe the WWW exists because of entertainment" : WHAAAT!!!???: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Wide_Web
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Re: Amiga founder RJ Mical now works for Google
« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2014, 04:21:37 PM »
Quote from: Kesa;768799
Without Google there wouldn't be YouTube. YouTube is the best thing the internet has to offer. Period.


Uh? YouTube has gone worse and worse after Google bought it :/ It would be much better if any other video site would become defacto now. There are many other sites which do work much better on all kinds of hw and don't try to shoot you if you want to fix their mess...
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Re: Amiga founder RJ Mical now works for Google
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2014, 04:22:25 PM »
=RJ= was interviewed in a recent issue of Retro Gamer too.
 

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Re: Amiga founder RJ Mical now works for Google
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2014, 04:29:18 PM »
ptek;

Yeah, his comment was quite unpresicise, but the entertainment aspect of computing has helped driving development; be it hardware/software and the web.

Today you have millions upon millions of people spending alot of money yearly on hardware they dont really need, just do to get max performance with max visuals.
Take a look at Twitch.tv. The viewer count there has taken off quite a bit lately, people watching streamers and prize money competitions.
Some of the Esport events got massive 1st place prizes and its not slowing down.

As for youtube. Lately its become quite heavy on the adverts. I do realise it cost alot of money to maintain, but if they add much more between each stream, it might start to loose popularity (with me atleast :) )
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Re: Amiga founder RJ Mical now works for Google
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2014, 06:01:42 PM »
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Uh? YouTube has gone worse and worse after Google bought it :/


Agreed. I once used google and youtube almost exclusively a few years ago. Now I always look for alternatives when I can. vimeo and bing frequently.

I've made efforts to keep my personal and hobby interest separate from professional and business interests. Google loves nothing better to tie together your activty and track you across all the internet while making it easier for others to do the same. It could be like asking a potential employer if they want to see your bathing suit pictures. Bleh.

Kesa, agree and disagree. Facebook bad. But google only payed a bundle for youtube because if they didn't someone else would have. Who needed who more?


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Re: Amiga founder RJ Mical now works for Google
« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2014, 06:07:45 PM »
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Uh? YouTube has gone worse and worse after Google bought it :/


Agreed. I once used google and youtube almost exclusively a few years ago. Now I always look for alternatives when I can. vimeo and bing frequently.

I've made efforts to keep my personal and hobby interest separate from professional and business interests. Google loves nothing better to tie together your activty and track you across all the internet while making it easier for others to do the same. It could be like asking a potential employer if they want to see your bathing suit pictures. Bleh.

Kesa, agree and disagree. Facebook bad. But google only payed a bundle for youtube because if they didn't someone else would have. Who needed who more?


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Re: Amiga founder RJ Mical now works for Google
« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2014, 08:30:18 PM »
The guy who locked himself in a room for a week and wrote intuition.
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Re: Amiga founder RJ Mical now works for Google
« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2014, 09:48:12 PM »
YouTube was around long before Google picked them up.  I'm not convinced Google has had an entirely positive effect on YouTube either, nor am I convinced YouTube would have been less successful without Google.  If anything, Google's cash simply facilitated a quicker growth for YouTube.

Between the terrible targeted, unrelated ad spam on YouTube and the forced integration of Google services on YouTube, I find myself getting insanely annoyed at them.

Forcing people to buy into Google+ to leave comments on YouTube was one of the biggest train wrecks Google has ever done.  Yes, let's force people to use a failing social network in order to leave simple comments on YT!  What could go wrong!?

Google has been buying cred for some time, imo.  Vint Cerf being their number one hired mouthpiece.
 

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Re: Amiga founder RJ Mical now works for Google
« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2014, 10:33:19 PM »
YouTube has not gotten worse.  That's ridiculous.  The quality was absurdly low pre Google.  Worse than default 240P quality now by a wide margin, and Flash only.  Google already had Google Video and the two co-existed for a while.  It was bad quality too but as a brand YouTube had a hook and more people were using it.

VIMEO is generally higher quality on average but they have a lower ceiling on quality and highly restrictive limits on content.  VEOH and other sites that want you using some janky proprietary player or non-standard codec are out of the question.

Google made YouTube ubiquitous and available, not entirely transparently, across all major platforms and various STB and other proprietary devices (that need to arrive at some unifying standard).  YouTube pre-Google may or may not have been able to position themselves to do such a thing.

What hasn't been good since Google took over is their UI has only become more convoluted.  Anything that requires more than one screen, more than one menu interface, etc. and Google doesn't know what to do.  Google doesn't know how to present all that it offers, beyond search, in a logical intuitive way and this handicap has made its way to YouTube.  They were good with one box to type words into and hit search and that's about it.  Anything else that isn't a mess to use, however useful it may be, they acquired.  

Google couldn't create something like Android themselves, not a chance.  But they gave it a fighting chance in the marketplace and, like YouTube, it's now dominant.  Moreso than an even messier, less sophisticated company like Yahoo.
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Re: Amiga founder RJ Mical now works for Google
« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2014, 11:26:39 PM »
YouTube is the best, sometimes commercials are long but that's a minor issue for what you get.
 

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Re: Amiga founder RJ Mical now works for Google
« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2014, 11:48:18 PM »
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Forcing people to buy into Google+ to leave comments on YouTube was one of the biggest train wrecks Google has ever done.  Yes, let's force people to use a failing social network in order to leave simple comments on YT!  What could go wrong!?


And yet, still, YT comments offer the lowest signal:noise of possibly any audience I've ever seen outside of Facebook.  YT comments make me pray conspiracy theories about sterilization through poisoning of the water supply someday happens.

It's still too easy, IMO.  You sign up for a google account and then you're able to completely ignore the google+ functionality.  It happily rides at the back of the bus, never to be used with barely any indicator it even exists.  Logging into gmail and using YouTube, through Chrome, Google+ is as buried and easily forgotten as any number of things they've designed.
 

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Re: Amiga founder RJ Mical now works for Google
« Reply #25 on: July 13, 2014, 12:04:12 AM »
Interesting how people jump to defend Google yet mention Microsoft and it's evil this evil that.

How blind people really are, Google is just as bad as the other big players out there. After all it's about money at the end of the day.

In the early days the internet was a better place, with various search engines and not one big player.

hotbox... altavista... all fantastic. As for Youtube it didn't need Google, it was already a success and as most companies do Google bought it because of that.

The more personal information/technology Google can get the better, it's their bread and butter. Search results, browsing habits and more. All worth a lot for companies wanting to sell their wares and to target advertising.

That's not to say other companies don't do the same. But put the Google name on it and they can do no wrong.

Same can be said for Apple.

As for the title of this thread he's been working for Google since 2012?

As for Google+ I can't get rid of the thing, even though I never signed up for it. It enabled itself, I disabled it via the instructions given and bam the next day it's back. Like a horrible disease. It's right up there with Facebook... At least Facebook allows you to disable/delete it and it doesn't keep coming back, I stopped using Gmail because of Google+.

Also what a great way to get some more search results for Amiga.org :-)
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Re: Amiga founder RJ Mical now works for Google
« Reply #26 on: July 13, 2014, 12:08:44 AM »
Not to mention being added to friend circles of random people and not being able to remove yourself from them :-/
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Re: Amiga founder RJ Mical now works for Google
« Reply #27 on: July 13, 2014, 12:24:08 AM »
Geez... nothing like rambling for the first half by stating the obvious.. I can not help but look at all the cables and gack on the table.  What a mess..
 

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Re: Amiga founder RJ Mical now works for Google
« Reply #28 on: July 13, 2014, 12:38:33 AM »
People who praise google as the second coming of Jesus should really stop doing so.

Also, if something is free, then YOU are the product!
 

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Re: Amiga founder RJ Mical now works for Google
« Reply #29 from previous page: July 13, 2014, 12:49:41 AM »
Getting upset about collecting info to target ads is forgetting one thing: online advertising is mostly a scam, not on us but on the people who pay to advertise online.  

I run ad blocking and pop-up blocking.  I can't tell you what was the last ad I saw on YT or anywhere else because I can also click "close" and "mute" and in the worse case scenario pop over to another tab if, in the case of folks like HULU, you have sometimes minutes worth of unavoidable ads, whether you pay subscription fees or not.  

Who are the people these things work on?  Who clicks thru?  Who is actually watching or reading these ads?  Not anyone here, intelligent enough to make an Amiga their hobby or more, I would hope.  So, let google bilk these saps while I enjoy free stuff.  I'm immune to their charms and when someone offers something better I'll go there.