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Catweasel 4 on 64-bit Windows
« on: June 12, 2014, 11:52:51 PM »
I've been looking high and low to find concrete information on if the  Catweasel 4 will work on 64-bit Windows systems.  I know Jans didn't  make any specific drivers for that platform, but that doesn't mean it  won't work.

Does anyone here have concrete, first hand information on this situation?

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Re: Catweasel 4 on 64-bit Windows
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2014, 11:58:28 PM »
I couldn't get it to work for me, but you could email Jens via his web site.
 

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Re: Catweasel 4 on 64-bit Windows
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2014, 06:39:40 PM »
There are no 64-bit drivers. :(

Here is the official reply I got from Jens:

Dear ,

Thank you for your request. 64-bis drivers are not available for the  Catweasel - this is the reason why the product has been discontinued.


Your INDIVIDUAL COMPUTERS Support Team

Jens Schönfeld


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Re: Catweasel 4 on 64-bit Windows
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2014, 07:15:10 PM »
Sorry to hear that it won't work under 64-bit Windows. There IS a driver for 32-bit and 64-bit GNU/Linux however: http://www.soundtracker.org/raw/cwfloppy/ You could always use it under GNU/Linux OR dual boot a 32-bit version of Windows and use it under there.

Unfortunately for myself, no driver for BSD (T.T)
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Re: Catweasel 4 on 64-bit Windows
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2014, 09:35:11 PM »
Quote from: J-Golden;766395
I've been looking high and low to find concrete information on if the  Catweasel 4 will work on 64-bit Windows systems.  I know Jans didn't  make any specific drivers for that platform, but that doesn't mean it  won't work.

Does anyone here have concrete, first hand information on this situation?

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You should be able to force Windoze to use the 32bit drivers. Are you installing them anyway and they won't work? Make sure when you install them, you use compatibility mode.
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Re: Catweasel 4 on 64-bit Windows
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2014, 02:26:12 AM »
I don't think it's much to do with Windows.  Having the 32 bit driver run on a 64 bit OS depends on how the driver was written/how it works.  EG: A lot of printer drivers or USB device drivers(Wifi etc) just don't care.  
Dual boot to XP Sp3 32bit is one way to maintain device compatibility for non supported devices. SO no need for anything to end, or change.  Just ask commodorejohn.  Kudos given.
@J-Golden.  A response from Jens is obviously concrete, and first -hand.  :)
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Re: Catweasel 4 on 64-bit Windows
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2014, 03:45:18 AM »
Write a driver for 64-bit evil monopolysoft ?

Is hardware API (ports and bits) published or available for Catweasel?
 

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Re: Catweasel 4 on 64-bit Windows
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2014, 03:06:26 PM »
Would have bought a few of these ages ago if they had 64 bit drivers.

I haven't used a 32 bit commodity hardware based machine since 2005, been running 64 bit everything (HW and SW) since the AMD x2 came out then.
 

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Re: Catweasel 4 on 64-bit Windows
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2014, 04:28:32 PM »
Otoh, avoiding the Microsoft imperium is quite nice ;)
 

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Re: Catweasel 4 on 64-bit Windows
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2014, 06:18:48 PM »
What was the name of the 3rd party developer who was working on new drivers for the Catweasel cards?  I am really bad at remembering names and have forgotten his name or nickname, but he had done a good deal of work on drivers and/or utilities for at least 1 or more of the Catweasel cards to make them work inside AmigaOS4.x machines by modifying the Linux drivers (IIRC).  I think this is why AmigaKit commissioned a production run of the Catweasel Mk2 that could be used in the X1000 computers.  Does any of this bring back memories to any of you about 3rd party driver development for the Catweasel cards?

Maybe this 3rd party programmer would be more likely to work on a 64bit driver than Jens, who appears to have abandoned any work on the Catweasel products.
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Re: Catweasel 4 on 64-bit Windows
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2014, 10:30:24 AM »
One thing I like to point out is 64 bit windows,manufacturer(s) state maximum ram for your notebook.

Here they even released a later model than mine,but still state the maximum ram for my model range is 4GB.

This is shocking because after all the years I have own the this notebook, about 6 years old,it works fine with 8GB DDR2

So the short story is,if you have a 64 bit windows, you may want to check what is the "real" maximum ram for your computer.

I only checked because I found it strange to have a 64 bit OS and the maximum ram quoted by the manufacture to be 4GB.

Ensure bios & all drivers are up to date,check manufacture website.

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Re: Catweasel 4 on 64-bit Windows
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2014, 11:18:15 AM »
Bear in mind different versions of Windows have different RAM upper limits.  How densely you can physically pack memory into the system is dependent on the hardware itself, based on the largest sized ram modules the hardware supports and how many RAM slots there are.  4 GB is the cap for all 32 bit variants for Windows itself.  Having say 32 GB of RAM on a machine running x86 (32 bit) version of windows you'll only ever see 4 GB of it.  Trying to force 32 bit drivers to run under x64 OS's generally doesn't work too well, though I would be curious if anyone has tried it with the Catweasel drivers.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-ca/library/windows/desktop/aa366778(v=vs.85).aspx#physical_memory_limits_windows_7
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Re: Catweasel 4 on 64-bit Windows
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2014, 11:40:59 AM »
My last posting refers to 64 bit OS.

32 bit OS some user(s) ran into problems when 4GB was installed,so some user(s) were successful with 3GB (2GB+1GB) where dual slots are present. I can't test this as I no longer own 32 bit windows.

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Re: Catweasel 4 on 64-bit Windows
« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2014, 03:27:55 PM »
Quote from: Methuselas;767221
LT,

You should be able to force Windoze to use the 32bit drivers. Are you installing them anyway and they won't work? Make sure when you install them, you use compatibility mode.

You can't force 32bit drivers on 64bit win, you can just force os to load drivers without valid signature, but that's a different story.
 

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Re: Catweasel 4 on 64-bit Windows
« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2014, 03:32:07 PM »
Quote from: delshay;767322
One thing I like to point out is 64 bit windows,manufacturer(s) state maximum ram for your notebook.

And now solve the riddle and tell me how to use Catweasel in a notebook.
And as the icing on the cake, what kind of memory barrier is affecting the usage of such card in a standard desktop computer.