A-EON Technology Acquires Amiga.org

[klx300r]

Well this is great news.

On logging in just now, I see I hadn't logged in for over a month. I had literally given up on this site.

Now I see that some of those who put me off coming here are thinking of leaving. Guess I'll stick around now.

Good luck to you Trevor and congratulations.

been hearing that alot lately..welcome back

[SACC-guy]

@Olafs3

Exactly, its never going to be perfect.

There will be tests to apply to any post, though:  ask yourself is this post made to contribute positively to this thread or is is designed to  create controversy or inflame other users?  

Then you need to assess whether the post is a legitimate point of view that adds value to the thread or is deliberately designed to be destructive to the discussion.

Not always an easy thing to do, so moderators need to be commended for the quality of good judgement calls they take in difficult situations.

@thread
amiga.org has always been a fine site...
I'm sure it will be even better with the newest owners.

Trevor and Matthew are supporters of all things Amiga (old and new)
They even put up their own money.

Say Thanks and hope they keep doing it... or you could start using your money!!!

M

[kickstart]

huh back already from your 'threat' of leaving? mysterious ??

What leaving threat? I just answer to a suggestion from the user itix... whe i wnat to leave this or anything of the internet i dont need to make a threats announcing something.

PS: With your signature dont talk about cheerleaders when you have "x1000" everywhere.

[OlafS3]

huh back already from your 'threat' of leaving? mysterious ?? fully agree with mod's decision below and his reasons were well laid out.  Seeing as reading comprehension isn't your forte I've attached the aforementioned post below and I'll be clear once again that it wouldn't matter whether he were talking about either of the Amiga flavours available today as per post no. 106 (quoting myself here):

The vested interest is in providing a community portal for all Amiga  users without prejudice and without someone blatantly repeating over and  over again why their chosen flavour is better than another users.
Enjoy what you like and respect that others do the same. Sounds simple right.        

mikeymike's edited post:

     Quote:
                                                                      Originally Posted by haywirepc                                    
                 x1000 is a big huge monstrous dud. 3k? Ppc is dead. os4 is a bad joke by now.
                                 
       Quote:
                                                                      Originally Posted by haywirepc                                    
                 os4, hyperion, sam boards and x1000?
Worst option forward. Just one guys opinions.
                                 
       Quote:
                                                                      Originally Posted by haywirepc                                    
                 If this site becomes a cheerleader camp for os4/sam/x1000 I'm out.
                                 
       Quote:
                                                                      Originally Posted by haywirepc                                    
                 Everyday use amiga systems now forming... but its aeros and aros and Morphos leading that charge now...
                                 
  - edited by mikeymike, with a couple of quotes left over so people can see why I've intervened -

You say you don't want a cheerleader site, then perhaps you should start by not acting like a cheerleader yourself.

It is Haywires view and his view is as valid as yours (believing in X1000...). Nobody has the right to judge what view is valid and what not. There was nothing insulting in the post, not against Trevor and not against other AmigaOS user. If such a posting is treated this way it is called censorship and that is obviously new to this site. And that has risen the mistrust by many user even further. If a company with obvious economic interests takes over a user site it should avoid anything that creates the impression of censorship. Do you understand what I mean?

[amigakit]

Some of the comments would be relevant if this was a discussion about the X1000 or discussing OS4 or discussing PPC future, it wasn't about any of these subject and the comments posted were off completely topic.  So why were these topics posted in this thread?

nothing insulting in the post

I disagree: there were subjective comments that could cause offence or inflame the thread.

[Niding]

@OlafS3

Its the tone of the post(s) tho. Its quite negativly loaded.

I personally have issues with the cost vs performance ratio myself (performance includes drivers, software in general etc), but Im not going to jump up and down calling it a failure.
And with regards to utilizing the hardware, you can always go the Linux route (yes there are cheaper hardware options if thats the case)

Trevor and Matthew are doing what most of us dont;
They have a vision and the energy and will to follow thru. Its easy to sit back and do nothing (beyond post negativly).
For x amount of years there was very little hardware development, and people where griping over that fact.
Then someone dares to step forward and follow their vision of what OS4 and the associated hardware should be, and we do our best to discourage them. Great!

We might or might not share the vision they have, but I for one are impressed with their determination and will to see their project(s) thru.

OS4 NG and Classic Amiga need more people like them!

Edit; Amigakit; I just read your last post and will bow out of this thread now

[klx300r]

@ OlafS3

seriously I know you to be more level headed then that.  Those 'views' are the reason many OS4.x users don't dare even bother with this site in the past.

yet another example, I love using my Amiga 1000 regularly too so now I go to a site and post a question specific to the A1000 and then some person posts his 'views' as follows:

 
                 Amiga 1000 is a big huge monstrous dud. 3k? 512Kb chip ram is a bad joke by now.
                                 
       or,
                 
Amiga 1000 is Worst option forward. Just one guys opinions.
                                 
       or                
                 Everyday use amiga systems now forming... but its aeros and aros and Morphos leading that charge now...

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well do you think that Amiga 1000 user would feel welcome here and what would he say to others about such a site??

[A6000]

@OlafS3

......Its not an easy task being a moderator, .........(a thankless task unfortunately).......

As is doing anything for the Amiga "community".

So Thanks to everyone at Amigakit and A-EON and everyone else who is doing something Amiga related.

P.S, just a thought, maybe A-EON could bring out an FPGA amiga-compatible running AROS 68K in a couple of years.

[itix]

Some of the comments would be relevant if this was a discussion about the X1000 or discussing OS4 or discussing PPC future, it wasn't about any of these subject and the comments posted were off completely topic.  So why were these topics posted in this thread?

I disagree: there were subjective comments that could cause offence or inflame the thread.

Why did usual suspects post tinfoil hats to this thread? If you cant keep your moderators in line they ruin your business. Moderators on this site are now your moderators.

I dont have problem you and a-eon owning this site but you put yourself to tricky position where you have to try to please both OS4 users and non-OS4 users.

Remember: The customer is always right.

[klx300r]

Some of the comments would be relevant if this was a discussion about the X1000 or discussing OS4 or discussing PPC future, it wasn't about any of these subject and the comments posted were off completely topic.  So why were these topics posted in this thread?
.

rhetorical question. same old same old here sadly on every single thread where OS4.x is even remotely mentioned:crazy:

[persia]

It's AmigaONE X1000, the Amiga name in computers still belongs to Amiga Inc.  

That aside Trevor understands the depth of his market.  Yes £1700 is a lot but there are those who are willing to pay it.  Trevor made a desktop in an extremely niche market, at a time when the desktop market is saturated and in decline and made a few quid on it, that is nothing short of amazing.

Let's give him a chance with Amiga.org before attacking.

@ OlafS3

seriously I know you to be more level headed then that.  Those 'views' are the reason many OS4.x users don't dare even bother with this site in the past.

yet another example, I love using my Amiga 1000 regularly too so now I go to a site and post a question specific to the A1000 and then some person posts his 'views' as follows:

 
                 Amiga 1000 is a big huge monstrous dud. 3k? 512Kb chip ram is a bad joke by now.
                                 
       or,
                 
Amiga 1000 is Worst option forward. Just one guys opinions.
                                 
       or                
                 Everyday use amiga systems now forming... but its aeros and aros and Morphos leading that charge now...

----------------------------------------------------------------

well do you think that Amiga 1000 user would feel welcome here and what would he say to others about such a site??

[Astral]

I'm not going to read over all 14 pages of text, and I really don't wish to.

But, I will say congratulations, thankyou, and good luck to A-Eon and associated supprt companies such as AmigaKit. You have proven so far with product after product that you have a vision, and the actual resources to continue with the Amiga growth/change.

I hope you can continue what you are doing as I see your actions as being very good for the Amiga as a whole.

[danbeaver]

Staying on topic, the new owners have done more to revive the Amiga "concept" in support of new and classic hardware along with a progressive approach to software than most anyone else (honorable mentions the Jens and several others).  Things are looking up with new products and renewed excitement among the community.  
 
However, those of who have a feel of the lawlessness of America's West, know the Laissez-faire attitude of the Amiga.org web site, where freedom of speech is balanced by the "ignored member" list.  Thus we have quite a discussion on a small topic -- mostly by people on my ignore list.

[haywirepc]

[censored] = Freedom of speech? This is not America, this is AMIGALAND.

[amoskodare]

OlafS3 wrote:
nothing insulting in the post

klx300r wrote:
@ OlafS3

Those 'views' are the reason many OS4.x users don't dare even bother  with this site in the past.

Yep, I agree with that quote from  klx300r..

Why do you think most OS4 users prefers to hang out on AW.net and Amigans instead of hanging out here on Amiga.org?

Yes, it's because of those "aggressive and inflammatory views" from a  small minority of users just expressing their "freedom of speech",  that's why :-)

What would you think if some users would always start to throw cr*p in threads where MorphOS or AROS is mentioned?

Not very nice to see that isn't it. Why not just skip the abusive  behavior and accepts other persons' choices of "Amiga" variants (as that  is their choice), and leave it at that. At least I do (I don't  bother/mind if you are black or white, what country you come from,  what religion you believe in, or what computer OS you prefer, etc...) and many others

PS: my two cents


So, back to topic... Trevor and Matthew (AmigaKit) are not some  outsiders or any furniture dealers who just bought something "Amiga" to  earn some fast buck. No, they have been in the amigascene (also using and  supporting "Amiga") for many many years. So nothing strange with them owning A.org...

Have a good day (or night) :-)

[OlafS3]

Yep, I agree with that quote from  klx300r..

Why do you think most OS4 users prefers to hang out on AW.net and Amigans instead of hanging out here on Amiga.org?

Yes, it's because of those "aggressive and inflammatory views" from a  small minority of users just expressing their "freedom of speech",  that's why :-)

What would you think if some users would always start to throw cr*p in threads where MorphOS or AROS is mentioned?

Not very nice to see that isn't it. Why not just skip the abusive  behavior and accepts other persons' choices of "Amiga" variants (as that  is their choice), and leave it at that. At least I do (I don't  bother/mind if you are black or white, what country you come from,  what religion you believe in, or what computer OS you prefer, etc...) and many others

PS: my two cents


So, back to topic... Trevor and Matthew (AmigaKit) are not some  outsiders or any furniture dealers who just bought something "Amiga" to  earn some fast buck. No, they have been in the amigascene (also using and  supporting "Amiga") for many many years. So nothing strange with them owning A.org...

Have a good day (or night) :-)

Propably people look at the same post different when they are OS4 fans or not. His words were a little harsh, partly facts partly emotions. But when you mention other sites, perhaps it is also the opposite that non-OS4 users do not feel on these sites at home too. Perhaps there are two realities out there, not just the OS4 supporter reality.