A-EON Technology Acquires Amiga.org

[OlafS3]

@Olafs3

I dislike the words "troll" and "trolling": they are abused to describe behavior on forums and become too broad in definition.  If someone infringes the rules, they should be specifically told exactly the rule that has been breached, not labelled as "trolling".  Accountability is very important to make Amiga.org a friendly place to visit.

I used it because you can often read it and someone used it against me. Transparency regarding any decision would be needed, be it changes of postings or warnings/bannings against users. And the moderators should not hide behind the TOS (like they always do) but justify their view against the users. If it is justified and covered by rules they can do that without problem.

[amigakit]

@Olafs3

Exactly, its never going to be perfect.

There will be tests to apply to any post, though:  ask yourself is this post made to contribute positively to this thread or is is designed to  create controversy or inflame other users?  

Then you need to assess whether the post is a legitimate point of view that adds value to the thread or is deliberately designed to be destructive to the discussion.

Not always an easy thing to do, so moderators need to be commended for the quality of good judgement calls they take in difficult situations.

[danwood]

"backed up by fact"

If somebody says that certain hardware is not competitive regarding price as a example it is backed by facts. Would that be accepted as a view or censored because not the new majority view? As I wrote moderation here was much more tolerant here than on sites like amigaworld and that has to do with the moderators. If you put in the same people here than there (what is the case obviously) then you get the same results, a kind of amigaworld 2.0. When that is your goal then it is ok, you own it but that is not what most users here wanted otherwise they would have posted on amigaworld and not here. You understand what I mean?

Here was a different group of users with different interests and views

There are always going to be cases where you (or anybody) disagrees with a moderator's decision, but that's the case on every forum, chat room etc.

I don't think we have to worry about A.org turning into the AW.Net of 2002 though, although Amigakit and Trevor obviously do have a vested-interest in OS4, Amigakit probably makes the majority of its sales on classic hardware expansions (I know that's where most of my spending goes with them), and Trevor is a well-known Amiga addict, he has multiple versions of every Commodore Amiga and also runs MorphOS on several machines (and posts at Morphzone), as well as being a bloody nice bloke to go with it.

A-eon as a business supporting the Amiga are open to new ideas (and ways to make a few quid I'm sure), as their classic sound card project shows, they are keep to support the "real" Amiga as well as OS4 machines.

I'd say this site is in great hands now (and I say this as a former-OS4 user who now uses MorphOS and classic).

[plexus]

Congratulations on the acquisition and good luck with the site!

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[Duce]

@psxphil

I'm sorry if my statements didn't make sense.  What I mean, at least over here (CA, as a LLC) - if I buy "xxx company" or "xxx website" and fold them into my companies interests, I can write down some operating expenses.  For example, I'm in the IT and telecomms business, if I buy out some IT news site, once it becomes my property it's MY asset.  I can run it in whatever form I choose, but once I've bought and paid for it it's my asset and I can write off certain expenses tied to the operations of it once the appropriate amount of time passes.  

Again, running a site like this (A.org), on the host it's currently on is $15-$20 a month unless someone signed an extremely stupid contract.  I know because I have sites on the same host and I pay $13 a month for unlimited everything.

The ads would have paid far more than what it took to operate the place under the old regime, not to mention the donations.  I'm not here to nitpick the new owners - in fact, I do think they will do a bang up job.  But anyone thinking that this site costs a grand a month to run is a lunatic.

As I said, your tax laws may vary.  Mine allow me to write off operating expenses on assets and materials.

Anyways, I digress - so last post from me on the subject.  Best of luck to the new owners.

[koaftder]

Regarding the tax suff:



Who cares? Just saying...

[koaftder]

That being said, it's always been about the Amiga here, but don't lose the coffee house style areas.  Perhaps have them not pop up on the "fresh posts" lists, but a lot of people do come here to just (pardon my french) "shoot the %&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!" about other topics that aren't entirely Amiga related.

An excellent point, considering that if that aspect gets interfered with, half the user base evaporates. It's pretty thin as it is.

[paul1981]

I think it was Lurch who mentioned this also... Where's the "50 Latest Posts" link gone? I can't easily play catch-up now as sometimes I don't log in for a number of days. That link is a superb feature which makes Amiga.org much easier for me and is one of the reasons I stick to this forum mostly as it makes my life a bit easier.

I understand you're wanting to make changes visually, and perhaps this was a move to make people browse the forum categories, but I'd still like to see the link somewhere, if not on the home page, but somewhere (anywhere except the internet achive LOL).

[kickstart]

@kickstart
So sad to see you go...(self edited)

Is nice to see how you self edit your post, getting used to the new a.org era.

[Karlos]

Is nice to see how you self edit your post, getting used to the new a.org era.

Not sure what you mean by that.

 It has been possible for users to edit their own posts since the first xoops version of the site which was literally over a decade ago. Not exactly a new thing.

[OlafS3]

Not sure what you mean by that.

 It has been possible for users to edit their own posts since the first xoops version of the site which was literally over a decade ago. Not exactly a new thing.

it was sarcasm

[kickstart]

Referring to those misteriuosly post edited posts by mickeymiky or whatever.

[wildstar1063]

It  seems the Amiga community as a whole, is very skeptical of anything new.
 this attitude really makes the community seem unwelcoming. It's not really
surprising with the many grandiose promises made by different owners of the
Amiga IP and name, and software and hardware manufacturers, that were
never kept.

Getting your hopes up and having them repeatedly dashed can make a
person or a community rather cold to new ideas and change, but if we don't
moderate this attitude a bit we are going to scare off what few developers
and idea people that are left or might come along in the future. Who wants to
present and idea or a new product only to be labeled a scammer or be met with
sarcasm and skepticism.

These guys who bought Amiga.org have been around the community for quite
some time and provide development and sales for what has to be a very small market,
sure they do it to make some money, but they could probably be more profitably
engaged, by developing and selling for other platforms. It is has to be the Amiga
platform and the better aspects of the community that keep them here, not the huge
profits they are making from sales to a niche community and platform.

Everyone has their own ideas of where the Amiga should go in the future, but it will go
NOWHERE, if we don't start giving people a chance and stop always suspecting them
of nefarious motives.

Anyhow welcome to the new owners.


On a side note since I have seen several post asking to bring back banned members,
could someone invite DOOMY back? I always found his rants quite humorous, and a little
levity here could not hurt. Just kidding.....Mostly

Chuck E.

[klx300r]

Referring to those misteriuosly post edited posts by mickeymiky or whatever.

huh back already from your 'threat' of leaving? mysterious ?? fully agree with mod's decision below and his reasons were well laid out.  Seeing as reading comprehension isn't your forte I've attached the aforementioned post below and I'll be clear once again that it wouldn't matter whether he were talking about either of the Amiga flavours available today as per post no. 106 (quoting myself here):

The vested interest is in providing a community portal for all Amiga  users without prejudice and without someone blatantly repeating over and  over again why their chosen flavour is better than another users.
Enjoy what you like and respect that others do the same. Sounds simple right.        

mikeymike's edited post:

     Quote:
                                                                      Originally Posted by haywirepc                                    
                 x1000 is a big huge monstrous dud. 3k? Ppc is dead. os4 is a bad joke by now.
                                 
       Quote:
                                                                      Originally Posted by haywirepc                                    
                 os4, hyperion, sam boards and x1000?
Worst option forward. Just one guys opinions.
                                 
       Quote:
                                                                      Originally Posted by haywirepc                                    
                 If this site becomes a cheerleader camp for os4/sam/x1000 I'm out.
                                 
       Quote:
                                                                      Originally Posted by haywirepc                                    
                 Everyday use amiga systems now forming... but its aeros and aros and Morphos leading that charge now...
                                 
  - edited by mikeymike, with a couple of quotes left over so people can see why I've intervened -

You say you don't want a cheerleader site, then perhaps you should start by not acting like a cheerleader yourself.

[ajlwalker]

Well this is great news.

On logging in just now, I see I hadn't logged in for over a month. I had literally given up on this site.

Now I see that some of those who put me off coming here are thinking of leaving. Guess I'll stick around now.

Good luck to you Trevor and congratulations.

[klx300r]

Well this is great news.

On logging in just now, I see I hadn't logged in for over a month. I had literally given up on this site.

Now I see that some of those who put me off coming here are thinking of leaving. Guess I'll stick around now.

Good luck to you Trevor and congratulations.

been hearing that alot lately..welcome back