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Re: Andy Warhol lost Amiga collection
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2014, 05:21:25 PM »
Well, a route that was satisfactory to the art historians involved.

The articles I've read seem to be giving Warhol complete credit for works he modified but did not create, e.g. the Deluxe Paint "Venus" image. Of course, if a ten year old gives digital Venus a third eye, it's disrespectful vandalism. If Warhol does it, it's a revolutionary commentary on the art establishment.
 

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Re: Andy Warhol lost Amiga collection
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2014, 07:14:01 PM »
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Of course, if a ten year old gives digital Venus a third eye, it's disrespectful vandalism. If Warhol does it, it's a revolutionary commentary on the art establishment.
Pretty ridiculous, eh?
 

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Re: Andy Warhol lost Amiga collection
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2014, 08:42:06 PM »
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Hence..."reverse engineer".

The way they're reporting you'd think Warhol was using ENIAC.


There is an PDF with the detailed description of the restoring process - it seems that it was not as easy as someone of us could think...
 

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Re: Andy Warhol lost Amiga collection
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2014, 09:11:08 PM »
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There is an PDF with the detailed description of the restoring process - it seems that it was not as easy as someone of us could think...


What I understood from the PDF it was easy task but they were not proceeding very quickly. The first meeting was almost year after and images were read in March 2013.

It just seems that most people here pissed off because those Amiga users are not part of our Amiga community.
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Re: Andy Warhol lost Amiga collection
« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2014, 10:31:07 PM »
My little 6 years old brother can draw dpaint better than this......
 

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« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2014, 10:35:56 PM »
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Re: Andy Warhol lost Amiga collection
« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2014, 11:45:00 PM »
They seem to have approached the task very professionally. Good job. The people that dont like the images I can understand but they also must understand that mr. Warhol was not a computer artist and it must have been very hard for him to draw with a mouse. Most people at the time didnt even know what a computer mouse is.
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Re: Andy Warhol lost Amiga collection
« Reply #21 on: April 26, 2014, 01:05:37 AM »
Well that is ironic. I click the link and get thrown a Varnish 503 'Guru Meditation' error.

I was surprised to see this story because I remember reading another article years ago on the same thing being done. The reason that one stood out was because it vaunted the use of Apple Mac machines being used to 'recover the lost art' due to how ancient the Amiga was and that it took them 2-3 years to manage.

At the time, I couldn't work out why they didn't just get some second hand Amigas off EBay and use them to convert the art to a modern format. It would have required a lot less stuffing around and been quicker.
 

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Re: Andy Warhol lost Amiga collection
« Reply #22 on: April 26, 2014, 04:32:20 AM »
What is amazing is that for the first time the original digital art from Warhol will be reproduced (printed and digital) in it's original quality: Warhol photographed the screen to reproduce it's art. :)
 

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Re: Andy Warhol lost Amiga collection
« Reply #23 on: April 26, 2014, 04:51:25 AM »
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What is amazing is that for the first time the original digital art from Warhol will be reproduced (printed and digital) in it's original quality: Warhol photographed the screen to reproduce it's art. :)

Photographing off a screen (CRT) actually gives something to digital art, it doesn't take away anything, especially early works of low resolution.  This is how CGI for movies got onto film up until laser recorders.
 

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Re: Andy Warhol lost Amiga collection
« Reply #24 on: April 26, 2014, 05:10:11 AM »
With social media, forums, Facebook ect ect, i cant believe that they could not have found one Amiga user out there that could have used their real Amiga to convert the image file to something a PC could use, not to mention Cross Dos, so they could read the floppy disk on a PC without any fuss. Tossers!!!!
 

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Re: Andy Warhol lost Amiga collection
« Reply #25 on: April 26, 2014, 06:45:42 AM »
I got an email yesterday proclaiming that KryoFlux was used to do the recovery and then emulation (WinUAE i assume):

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Hi there!

Some of you may be aware of Andy Warhol's attendance at the Amiga computer launch event about 30 years ago. Andy used a preliminary version of GraphiCraft and a digitizer to create a digital picture of Deborah Harry ("Blondie").

Now, after three decades, more pictures made by Andy Warhol on his Amiga 1000 have surfaced. In a combined effort by the Carnegie Mellon University Computer Club and its Frank Ratchye STUDIO for Creative Inquiry and other contributors, KryoFlux was used to create high definition (stream) files of the magnetic information and convert these into ADF sector dumps. Further processing was then applied by loading those images in emulation and extracting the data via the original software Andy used to create the pictures.

We are very proud that KryoFlux was the tool of choice and we are glad that these important artefacts could be preserved before the disks aged beyond repair.

Fore more technial details, here is a document that has been prepared which outlines the process that was applied:
http://studioforcreativeinquiry.org/public/warhol_amiga_report_v10.pdf

Here is the link to the original press release:
http://www.warhol.org/uploadedFiles/Warhol_Site/Warhol/Content/The_Museum/Press_room/documents/The_Warhol_Amiga_Project_Release_4-24-14.pdf

And here are the pictures in the best quality that is available to the public at the moment:
http://www.warhol.org/uploadedFiles/Warhol_Site/Warhol/Content/Museum/Press_room/Press_Room_ZIPS/Warhol_Amiga_Press_Images.zip

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Re: Andy Warhol lost Amiga collection
« Reply #26 on: April 26, 2014, 06:47:14 AM »
So I read the pdf and now I'm more miffed that the 26.7 KS isn't available than any Warhol "art".
 

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Re: Andy Warhol lost Amiga collection
« Reply #27 on: April 26, 2014, 09:05:07 AM »
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Wait, I thought this already happened a few years ago... I was trying to help someone restore the banana2 file but couldn't figure it out. Sometime later, someone else did it successfully with the pre-release version of GraphiCraft used at the launch event, which was the only program that could handle it.

It looks like another group now did the exact same thing, only through a much more circuitous route...


Yes, you're right!
I was able to open the Andy's files running a beta version of Graphicraft, the same used by Warhol in 1985, with a pre-release kickstart on my Amiga 1000. I did it in an afternoon and it happened some years ago...

The owner of the disk is Don Greenbaum. In 1985 he was the chief financial officer for Commodore International and he got the disk directly from Andy Warhol during the days of the Amiga launch at the Lincoln Center. I met Don here, on this forum: he was looking for someone or something who could help him to open the Andy's files 25 years later...

I'm really glad Matt_H remembered this!
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Re: Andy Warhol lost Amiga collection
« Reply #28 on: April 26, 2014, 12:05:34 PM »
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Yes, you're right!
I was able to open the Andy's files running a beta version of Graphicraft, the same used by Warhol in 1985, with a pre-release kickstart on my Amiga 1000. I did it in an afternoon and it happened some years ago...

The owner of the disk is Don Greenbaum. In 1985 he was the chief financial officer for Commodore International and he got the disk directly from Andy Warhol during the days of the Amiga launch at the Lincoln Center. I met Don here, on this forum: he was looking for someone or something who could help him to open the Andy's files 25 years later...

I'm really glad Matt_H remembered this!
Alessandro

Alessandro is absolutely correct.   We did this 3 years ago and approached the Warhol Museum telling them what we did and seeking to work with them.  I even talked directly to Matt Wribican, curator who told me he was too busy to look for this.  I have all my emails to and from him and with two other people at the Museum and Warhol Foundation.  In the PDF CMU issued (and mentioned above) they discuss our earlier restorations and the article we published in 2011, before they "had their brainstorm".  Evidently he found the box and went to a fellow worker at the Museum to keep this in house.

From their PDF:

"The second known instance was the rediscovery by Don Greenbaum, the CFO of Commodore who worked directly with Warhol at the 1985 launch, of several disks in his possession around 2011. According to the referenced article, nine works ("campbells," "banana2," "andy7," "cycle2," "flowers," "andys," "bigflower," "money," and "cycle1") were produced and hand-delivered by Don himself for the launch event. This discovery and referenced article is of particular relevance as it mentions pre-release Kickstart ROMs and Graphicraft software also used in this effort, which has unearthed versions of some but apparently not all of these files. Pending his ongoing determination as to the ownership of the works (now known to be Warhol), Don has not published any of these files.
Reference: http://www.academia.edu/1467355/Nine_Warhols_Waiting_"

And....

"Avenues for Further Exploration
• A live exploration and demonstration of the software Warhol had at his disposal- perhaps as a video, an exhibition of the original hardware, or an interactive exhibit running in modern emulators-would be a great way to educate the art community and the public at large in the origins and history of modern media.


• Acquisition of copies of the media held by Don Greenbaum containing several works not discovered here would permit data comparison and proper exhibition of the entire set of works known to have been created by Warhol on the Amiga."

It's nice to see the Warhol museum sort of acknowledging my and Alessandro's earlier work 3 years ago, AND, we informed the Museum of that fact before we published the discovery of these works. Now they claim they came up with this on their own.

AND, our disks run on the original Amiga hardware, something they have not reproduced to date.  Odd, it didn't take Alessandro tons of money and team from a university.  Only an old Amiga and some brains.

So why was this timeline left out of the Carnegie Mellon Report? Why did they not contact me? Some answers would be nice.

Don Greenbaum
 

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Re: Andy Warhol lost Amiga collection
« Reply #29 from previous page: April 26, 2014, 03:26:26 PM »
Don, Alessandro, thanks for chiming in and reminding me of the details. It's both interesting and frustrating how a story of early digital art is inextricably linked to issues of digital copyright.