Classic VS NG

[itix]

@itix - Possible to copy over an existing setup from my current A1200 and run it I guess? That would mean I wouldn't have to make too many changes.

You still have same issues maintaining dual AGA/RTG setup when trying to run old games and demos with WHDLoad. So in the end you ave nothing.

For gaming purposes and watching old demos it could be better idea strip down Amiga from RTG and make it AGA only setup. NG is better reserved to RTG stuff if you want that.

So I had a look for a mac mini locally but can only find a 32MB version. I'm guessing the 64MB is rare?

It is very rare. Only 500,000 units were built which is not many, really.

[Boot_WB]

always wanted a cube though. A shame MorphOS doesn't support it.

Hardware Compatibility

On this page, you find a list of hardware that is directly supported by MorphOS 3.x.
[...]
Apple PowerMac Cube***
[...]
* * * - Lacks support for the bundled USB audio hardware.

http://morphos-team.net/hardware

[Iggy]

If you want to use your Amiga for a day-to-day desktop replacement, then go NG.  If you just want to tinker and play old software, than keep what you've got.  I expect this post to devolve into a flame war in 3... 2... 1...

No...not really.
You're all making a lot of sense.
I'm hard core blue, but you'll notice in my signature that I keep an A2000 around.
For practical purposes, NG makes sense, and I use Odyssey on my MorphOS system daily.
But I wouldn't ditch the A1200 either.

[spirantho]

I'm NG all the way, me......

.. well, apart from the A500 with a PowerPC board (the KCS one ), the A600, the A1200/030, the three A1500s and the two A4000s with 200MHz and 350MHz PowerPCs respectively (the 350MHz is my work machine).

APART from that, I'm completely NG as well.

(In other words - don't sell the "classic" unless you have to. You'll regret it. All the NG systems are great, these days, but there are times when you just want to go back to the good old OS3)

[klx300r]

I'm NG all the way, me......

.. well, apart from the A500 with a PowerPC board (the KCS one ), the A600, the A1200/030, the three A1500s and the two A4000s with 200MHz and 350MHz PowerPCs respectively (the 350MHz is my work machine).

APART from that, I'm completely NG as well.

(In other words - don't sell the "classic" unless you have to. You'll regret it. All the NG systems are great, these days, but there are times when you just want to go back to the good old OS3)

+1 and sing it again brother:)

[Duce]

As much as I hated seemingly always fiddling around fixing something on my old BV/PPC/040 A1200, I do miss the darned thing.  I'm not much of a purist, but there's a lot to be said for the "Real McCoy" hardware wise - and I say that as someone with a SAM, a bulletproof stable Amithlon rig, and a dedicated straight to WB UAE machine owner.

Remember, costs you nothing to keep the old hardware!  Keeping it around and only using it once or twice a year costs you nothing if you get some enjoyment out of it at all, and you'll never lose money on classic Amiga HW if you chose to sell it a few years down the road.  Stuff will only go up in value.

[zylesea]

I sold my 68 stuff a few years off and am MorphOS only these days. I must say I don-ät miss the 68k stuff too much. If you have the space though, keep the 68k gear and add a ppc machine. I recomend a Mac mini or a powerbook.

[kickstart]

"classic" better know as real amigas= all

sams and x1000 "ng" better know as amiga-like= expensive harware for emulate real amiga software with a reasonable browser

[danwood]

sams and x1000 "ng" better know as amiga-like= expensive harware for emulate real amiga software with a reasonable browser

"NG" doesn't just mean OS4, there are several ways to get a very similar (if not better) "NG" Amiga experience for many times less money than the X1000 or Sams - MorphOS or AROS have already been mentioned in this thread and make more sense for a user on a budget or who doesn't need a specific element that only OS4 offers.

[danwood]

@danwood - Well said, I have an old G4 tower that had MorphOS on it. Tried it many years ago. Not sure if I liked it or not. Looking at an Apple machine might have been it.

Was going to put it in another case, but now the G5 is supported I may look at that.  A mac mini is a nice size, always wanted a cube though. A shame MorphOS doesn't support it.

Well I've used Macs for years so I'm not anti-Apple, that's never bothered me - it's just a cheap way of getting a PPC motherboard really that's got professional build quality.  

I bought an A1XE years ago and after living with the DMA bugs, the USB problems, the Articia chipset design flaws, non-working onboard sound, flat battery stopping boot, spending over $200 trying to get working RAM modules that were compatible and other many other oddities, random lockups, boot failures etc. I learned my lesson and won't buy another obscure low-production numbers board like that again, moving to a PPC Mini with a more professional mass-market, thoroughly tested design and no quirky bugs was very refreshing actually.   I don't even notice it's a Mac, the machine sits under my desk so I can't see it, in my mind when I'm using it I just go into a fantasy work that it's 1999 and I'm using a Boxer or something

I didn't realise the 64MB Mini was that rare, mine is a 64MB version, I have heard that's the one to get though for best experience.  You might be better off with Powermac G4 or G5 though as you can just install your own GFX card.  A G5 Mac will also give you the fastest "NG Amiga" experience too, I quite like their design, considering one myself, got a great workstation look.

[spirantho]

For what it's worth all the Acube and A-Eon machines have FAR fewer problems than the Eyetech machines.
(That said my A1XE has never given me any trouble at all... maybe I'm just lucky)

[Thorham]

"classic" better know as real amigas= all

Indeed :cool:

[Fransexy_]

"classic" better know as real amigas= all

sams and x1000 "ng" better know as amiga-like= expensive harware for emulate real amiga software with a reasonable browser

Why that hate towards amigaos4? have you a childhood trauma because AmigaOS4 raped you when you were a child or what?

[klx300r]

@ Fransexy

no point getting upset as that's par for the course over here unfortunately & I don't understand it either since 99% of us are here because of our classics and still enjoy our NG miggies.  Anyway I'm just happy that this stuff is on the appropriate thread at least :laugh1:

[Iggy]

Why that hate towards amigaos4? have you a childhood trauma because AmigaOS4 raped you when you were a child or what?

OS4 did try to lure me into a vehicle with candy, but I resisted. :lol:

[kickstart]

"NG" doesn't just mean OS4, there are several ways to get a very similar (if not better) "NG" Amiga experience for many times less money than the X1000 or Sams - MorphOS or AROS have already been mentioned in this thread and make more sense for a user on a budget or who doesn't need a specific element that only OS4 offers.

Yes, aros is a good idea but need more time to advance, morphos is faster than amigaos4, more compatible and with better and cheap hardware.