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cd-rom with desktop case
« on: February 13, 2004, 10:24:03 AM »
i want a cd-rom with my amiga 1200, so i can transfer tons of adf-files and install OS3.5 and drivers for a pc-card network card

but I dont want put my A1200 in a case just to have the cd-rom(it takes away the Amiga-feeling)

i mostly plays games
but planning to buy an turbo-board to use OS3.5

are there still cd-rom drives that fits externely(saw one in a mag from 94')
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µ-A1-C - OS4.0-PR-U2, 256MB || A1200D - NetBSD(part), 50MHz, 32MB RAM, 6GB HD || A600 -  OS2.4, 2MB RAM, 60MB HD  || 2xA600 - OS2.4 || AMD - FC3, 1GHz || VIA Mini-Itx - Debian, 533MHz || Aqua PS2
 

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Re: cd-rom with desktop case
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2004, 10:49:59 AM »
If you don't want a tower then you have three choices:

1. Buy an A1200 Blizzard accelerator with a SCSI card, and connect a standard PC SCSI CD-ROM drive. By far the most expensive option (ebay prices are £100-£200 for the accelerator, and the SCSI cards are ultra-rare, probably another £100-£200) but also has the fastest data transfer rates.

2. Buy a HiSoft Squirrel PCMCIA SCSI interface, and you can use a standard PC SCSI CD-ROM drive, but only up to about quadspeed, I believe. There are also known issues with Squirrel's overheating and freezing A1200's during long data transfers (I've experienced this myself). Squirrels go for about £30-£40 on eBay, probably another £30-£50 for the SCSI drive and case.

3. Buy an Amiga Technologies Q-Drive 1241 (the official CD-ROM for the A1200). It is a quadspeed drive and uses a custom PCMCIA interface (much like the Squirrel). I sold one last month on eBay for £144, see here.

Anyone please feel free to correct me on any of the above!

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Re: cd-rom with desktop case
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2004, 02:32:18 PM »
will a Blizzard 1240 40MHz + Blizzard scsi-kit IV do the trick then?
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µ-A1-C - OS4.0-PR-U2, 256MB || A1200D - NetBSD(part), 50MHz, 32MB RAM, 6GB HD || A600 -  OS2.4, 2MB RAM, 60MB HD  || 2xA600 - OS2.4 || AMD - FC3, 1GHz || VIA Mini-Itx - Debian, 533MHz || Aqua PS2
 

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Re: cd-rom with desktop case
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2004, 02:46:03 PM »
Check this out  :-)

But I think it would be easier to transfer the NIC drivers with diskettes and then all the rest over the network..
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Re: cd-rom with desktop case
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2004, 03:08:45 PM »
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will a Blizzard 1240 40MHz + Blizzard scsi-kit IV do the trick then?


Yes. All you then need is a standard SCSI CD-ROM drive in external casing (one that has an audio pass-through would be ideal to mix the Amiga's sound with the sound from the CD-ROM drive).

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Check this out  

But I think it would be easier to transfer the NIC drivers with diskettes and then all the rest over the network..


That's really cool, looks a neat well-done mod too!
 

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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2004, 03:09:47 PM »
@ kvasarnomad

Yep. That'll work.
 

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Re: cd-rom with desktop case
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2004, 05:07:01 PM »
Hi,
I have bought a scsi card for my Blizzard 1230IV, but i didnt get any drivers disk with it.:-(
Anyone know if the drivers are available on the net (and where)?  
 

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Re: cd-rom with desktop case
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2004, 08:54:48 PM »
If you install AsimCDFS and let ScsiInquire locate what is connected to what device then you will see something called "1230scsi.device" and that´s the device where all your stuff can be found if it´s connected to your Blizzard scsi controller ...

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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2004, 09:23:13 PM »
I dont like the angle at which that dude placed that internal laptop drive into his 1200 desktop. its not consistent with the angle of the case.....it looks kinda bad......he should have angled the part of the CDROM furthest back near the ports of the 1200 more parrallel to the angle of the keyboard and the case, and also cut the case in the same angle. Maybe he would have to place something underneath the CDROM to hold it up, but it would have looked better...................he could have also used a laptop harddrive instead of a desktop one and ket all three internally!.............I hope to try this with an A600 one day.


as for another solution to connecting a CDROM to a 1200 without towering it is this................get IDEfix with the little hardware and just connect a regular internal PC CDrom just hanging out of the back of the 1200 with a cable long enough.
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Re: cd-rom with desktop case
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2004, 10:57:32 PM »
Effy:
Thanks for the tip, where can i find AsimCDFS?
 

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Re: cd-rom with desktop case
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2004, 12:14:13 AM »
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as for another solution to connecting a CDROM to a 1200 without towering it is this................get IDEfix with the little hardware and just connect a regular internal PC CDrom just hanging out of the back of the 1200 with a cable long enough.

The real A1200 feeling! :-D
Thats what I got a internal pc CD-Rom connected to internal IDE and a bigger replacement powersupply.
I have a 4way idesplitter so I have 2 of those swapable harddisk bays that is for a  5,25"  pcdrivebay as external hd-cases for a 3,5" ide disk and a 2,5".
I have the same swapable drivebays for my pc hds as well.
I really recommend those! Backup is just a matter of inserting harddisk, copy, remove harddisk.
As for using a internal cd-rom as external I never noticed any problems except vibrationnoise  sometimes but a bit of antistatic foam took care of that.
 
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Re: cd-rom with desktop case
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2004, 04:25:41 AM »
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leirbag28 wrote:
I dont like the angle at which that dude placed that internal laptop drive into his 1200 desktop. its not consistent with the angle of the case.....it looks kinda bad......he should have angled the part of the CDROM furthest back near the ports of the 1200 more parrallel to the angle of the keyboard and the case, and also cut the case in the same angle. Maybe he would have to place something underneath the CDROM to hold it up, but it would have looked better...................he could have also used a laptop harddrive instead of a desktop one and ket all three internally!.............I hope to try this with an A600 one day.


Getting the angle strait with the angle of the case doesn't work.  The keyboard gets in the way.  
I have 2 A1200's with an internal cdrw, hd and floppy.  Saves space and cables all over the place, well as much as possible anyway.   :-D
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Re: cd-rom with desktop case
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2004, 08:50:07 AM »
PG : AsimCDFS is not for free so you need to search for it on Ebay for example. But on Aminet there is supposed to be AmiCDFS which is totally for free but I can not give any details about it because I never have tried it ...

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Re: cd-rom with desktop case
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2004, 09:55:31 AM »
I have the Amiga Tech. Q-Drive, but unfortunately it doesn't read CDRs, let alone CDRWs .. I've tried putting in another, newer drive unit but haven't yet tested if it works any better, if at all.
 

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Re: cd-rom with desktop case
« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2004, 02:54:13 PM »
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fragment wrote:
Check this out  :-)

But I think it would be easier to transfer the NIC drivers with diskettes and then all the rest over the network..


Note this: Check out happyharddrive.lha on aminet for a better way to disable the internal floppy port, simply connect pins 2 & 10 together. This makes the Amiga believe that DF0 is present and empty.

Waay better than having a switch...

-Paul