Icaros is not a bad OS at all :D

[AmigaClassicRule]

Hey I am trying Icaros and it seems super awesome actually. This seems to be a very strong potential OS replacing Linux and even Ubuntu in all regards. Now if I can get this OS to go WiFi in my laptop with ease then this is one step closer from replacing my Windows 7.

If there is a program similar like teamviewer for icaros that is another point closer to replacing Windows 7 for me.

If icaros have a program like VLC or VLC player that is even another point closer to replacing Windows 7.

If I can do skype on icaros even if it is online and I can do video  conference on skype even if it is online then it is one point to  replacing Windows 7.

If icaros have Java support and Java script support so that I can use a java program to go online to my online university and it actually works with the latest java.com program then that is the final seal to replacing Windows 7 for me completely and I will actually go out of my way and use icaros 100% on my laptop as the main OS.



Why?

1) Speed is way faster than my Windows 7 is one factor.
2) No more worries ever again with spyware, adware, viruses.
3) The laptop is too weak to play games on it...so most of the time I use it for youtube, mp3, videos and studies, teamviewer, chatting with skype.  if icaros can do all of this then I am ready and going for replacement immediately.

Can you guys answer my request above?

[TheMagicM]

I havent used it in a long time.  Sounds cool. Downloading now.

[XDelusion]

Sounds like you found the rare and perfect hardware combo.

[TheMagicM]

Tried installing it under VirtualBox but its a no go.  I'll google it for a few minutes before I lose interest for the day.

EDIT: Got it working..but by telling it not to install to "DH1" work.. only DH0.

EDIT 2: The 68k apps included all crash.  Maybe it was because I set Amibridge to AROS m68k?  Dunno...  and I dont know where to change it at either.

[Duce]

I liked AROS when I played with it a few times, but found the fragmentation that's happening with the different variants annoying as hell.  I found the whole Icaros, Broadway, AROS Vision, AspireOS thing to be a confusing pain, but then again, I'm short on patience.  I'm simply used to Linux distro's where I can clearly click on either x64 or 32 bit variants and have the OS burned on a USB key or optical media and installed within 3 minutes.  If I've gotta dig around and slog through different variants, I just wash my hands of it, but maybe the download options are more clear now than they used to be.  When I did get it working though, I did like it, other than some bad screen resolution modes issues I hit where one minute it'd be working fine then all of a sudden it'd try slipping back to VESA mode.

I'd hoped the SAM version of AROS might replace OS4 on my SAM, but I was never, ever able to even get it to boot to install mode no matter what I did

I just gave up and built an Amithlon box.  If I'm going to hunt for supported hardware for an OS, Amithlon gave me a better experience.  I don't consider a "hosted" OS a daily driver OS, but that's just a personal nit I tend to pick.

[XDelusion]

On that note, I hope that the new AROSithlon attempt (I think there are now two versions in the works?) provides some good fortune. It would be great to have something like Amithlon that is actually considered "legal" (like I care) so everyone can have easy acess to it.

 Likewise it would be great if such a kit was designed for easy installation and driver
configuration. I've got an Amithlon box sitting right here, though I put a new drive in it
and I always hate the bit about getting everything sinced right, but once it is, it purrs like
a kitten.
 Also Fish has a ton of great Amithlon tips to offer that really enhance things a lot!

I liked AROS when I played with it a few times, but found the fragmentation that's happening with the different variants annoying as hell.  I found the whole Icaros, Broadway, AROS Vision, AspireOS thing to be a confusing pain, but then again, I'm short on patience.  I'm simply used to Linux distro's where I can clearly click on either x64 or 32 bit variants and have the OS burned on a USB key or optical media and installed within 3 minutes.  If I've gotta dig around and slog through different variants, I just wash my hands of it, but maybe the download options are more clear now than they used to be.  When I did get it working though, I did like it, other than some bad screen resolution modes issues I hit where one minute it'd be working fine then all of a sudden it'd try slipping back to VESA mode.

I'd hoped the SAM version of AROS might replace OS4 on my SAM, but I was never, ever able to even get it to boot to install mode no matter what I did

I just gave up and built an Amithlon box.  If I'm going to hunt for supported hardware for an OS, Amithlon gave me a better experience.  I don't consider a "hosted" OS a daily driver OS, but that's just a personal nit I tend to pick.

[AmigaClassicRule]

I guess you guys misunderstood me. I do not think I do have the  compatible hardware that you  mention...though when I ran it on the CD  it was beautiful. Liked it a lot..VERY fast and that is on the CD and  looked like a very potential OS. However, I tried to go WiFi I failed. I  tried Netgear and still have not managed to go online...so all the  other things I listed cannot be confirmed if I cannot go online.

So you can see from here I have an issue with getting it online which is  the first requirement to convince me it is a replacement OS.

So...what I wanted to know if someone can answer the remaining questions  to me if it is possible..but also if someone can help me get it online.

This is my computer spec:

          Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     U9400  @ 1.40GHz (2 CPUs), ~1.4GHz
             
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Sound Devices
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            Description: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio (With EC))
 Default Sound Playback: Yes
 Default Voice Playback: Yes
            Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0262&SUBSYS_11790606&REV_1003
        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 100
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: RTKVHD64.sys
         Driver Version: 6.00.0001.5904 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: n/a
          Date and Size: 7/28/2009 21:00:14, 1966624 bytes
            Other Files:
        Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
         HW Accel Level: Basic
              Cap Flags: 0xF1F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

---------------------
Sound Capture Devices
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            Description: Microphone (Realtek High Definition Audio (With EC))
  Default Sound Capture: Yes
  Default Voice Capture: Yes
            Driver Name: RTKVHD64.sys
         Driver Version: 6.00.0001.5904 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
          Date and Size: 7/28/2009 21:00:14, 1966624 bytes
              Cap Flags: 0x1
           Format Flags: 0xFFFFF

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DirectInput Devices
-------------------
      Device Name: Mouse
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Keyboard
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No

-----------
USB Devices
-----------
+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x8086, 0x2938
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub

----------------
Gameport Devices
----------------

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PS/2 Devices
------------
+ Standard PS/2 Keyboard
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0303
| Service: i8042prt
|
+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
|
+ Alps Pointing-device
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0f13
| Upper Filters: ApfiltrService
| Service: i8042prt
|
+ HID-compliant mouse
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x17EF, 0x6019
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_mouse
| Service: mouhid
|
+ Terminal Server Mouse Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD

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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
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      Drive: C:
 Free Space: 118.0 GB
Total Space: 180.7 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: Hitachi HTS723220L9A360

      Drive: D:
      Model: MAT%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!A DVD-RAM UJ-844S USB Device
     Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), , 0 bytes

      Drive: E:
      Model: DTSOFT Virtual CdRom Device
     Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), , 0 bytes

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System Devices
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     Name: Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2A43&SUBSYS_000C1179&REV_07\3&21436425&0&11
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2939
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2939&SUBSYS_00011179&REV_03\3&21436425&0&D2
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) 82801 PCI Bridge - 2448
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2448&SUBSYS_00011179&REV_93\3&21436425&0&F0
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2A42&SUBSYS_000C1179&REV_07\3&21436425&0&10
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2938
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2938&SUBSYS_00011179&REV_03\3&21436425&0&D1
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) 82567LM Gigabit Network Connection
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_10F5&SUBSYS_00011179&REV_03\3&21436425&0&C8
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Chipset Processor to DRAM Controller - 2A40
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2A40&SUBSYS_00011179&REV_07\3&21436425&0&00
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2937
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2937&SUBSYS_00011179&REV_03\3&21436425&0&D0
   Driver: n/a

     Name: SDA Standard Compliant SD Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1180&DEV_0822&SUBSYS_00011179&REV_22\4&2BB6A04D&0&58F0
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family PCI Express Root Port 4 - 2946
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2946&SUBSYS_00011179&REV_03\3&21436425&0&E3
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2936
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2936&SUBSYS_00011179&REV_03\3&21436425&0&EA
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family PCI Express Root Port 1 - 2940
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2940&SUBSYS_00011179&REV_03\3&21436425&0&E0
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2935
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2935&SUBSYS_00011179&REV_03\3&21436425&0&E9
   Driver: n/a

     Name: High Definition Audio Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_293E&SUBSYS_00011179&REV_03\3&21436425&0&D8
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2934
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2934&SUBSYS_00011179&REV_03\3&21436425&0&E8
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) WiFi Link 5100 AGN
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_4232&SUBSYS_12018086&REV_00\4&77C3528&0&00E0
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 293C
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_293C&SUBSYS_00011179&REV_03\3&21436425&0&D7
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) ICH9M-E/M SATA AHCI Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2929&SUBSYS_00011179&REV_03\3&21436425&0&FA
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) Management Engine Interface
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2A44&SUBSYS_00011179&REV_07\3&21436425&0&18
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 293A
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_293A&SUBSYS_00011179&REV_03\3&21436425&0&EF
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) ICH9M-E LPC Interface Controller - 2917
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2917&SUBSYS_00011179&REV_03\3&21436425&0&F8
   Driver: n/a

[fishy_fiz]

Unfortunately I dont think your wifi is supported so youd have to get either a mini pci card or use some sort of usb option.
As for a vlc style player, mplayer is equally good. Skype has no support for any amiga system. Java no, javascript, yes (even has jut support).

Im surprised to hear the probs people are having with getting aros to run. I havr an i7 desktop, an i5 laptop, 2 core duo desktops, an athlon64 laptop, and an eeepc, and the only machine that gives me any grief is the i5 laptop.

[Nickman]

Hey I am trying Icaros and it seems super awesome actually. This seems to be a very strong potential OS replacing Linux and even Ubuntu in all regards. Now if I can get this OS to go WiFi in my laptop with ease then this is one step closer from replacing my Windows 7.

If there is a program similar like teamviewer for icaros that is another point closer to replacing Windows 7 for me.

If icaros have a program like VLC or VLC player that is even another point closer to replacing Windows 7.

If I can do skype on icaros even if it is online and I can do video  conference on skype even if it is online then it is one point to  replacing Windows 7.

If icaros have Java support and Java script support so that I can use a java program to go online to my online university and it actually works with the latest java.com program then that is the final seal to replacing Windows 7 for me completely and I will actually go out of my way and use icaros 100% on my laptop as the main OS.



Why?

1) Speed is way faster than my Windows 7 is one factor.
2) No more worries ever again with spyware, adware, viruses.
3) The laptop is too weak to play games on it...so most of the time I use it for youtube, mp3, videos and studies, teamviewer, chatting with skype.  if icaros can do all of this then I am ready and going for replacement immediately.

Can you guys answer my request above?

Have you tried Aeros ? http://www.aeros-os.org/
Get AROS with linux applications and drivers

[AmigaClassicRule]

Hhmmpf....never mind...too many AROS flavors....never just one with the strength and combinations of all these minds to make it that one as good as Linux with drivers, compatibilities, features...etc. If all these different sub community who are constantly making tinier and more variations of AROS combined and made one COMPLETE STAND ALONE NATIVE OS completely like Windows 7 for example and spend on grunting it with drivers, drivers, drivers and made it as compatible as Linux as possible with all these years passed by....it would overrun OS 4.1 and MorphOS and even 68k Amiga in a heart beat.....I would be using it as my main and only OS really...but...never mind............

[phoenixkonsole]

Aeros is more compatible to existing hardware than windows 8.

[Duce]

Aeros is more compatible to existing hardware than windows 8.

LOL, good one.

A Linux hosted OS version doesn't count when you're using the hosted Linux  OS to make up for the inadequacies of the end OS hardware support wise.

[phoenixkonsole]

Hmmm... is os x an os than? Or just Mac Os 9 finder ported over to netbsd?

The joke is a good one because it is true ; )

[fishy_fiz]

The fact that there's options doesnt hinder progress. The OS core developeds continue to work on the core OS and distro makers make the distros. The work doesnt overlap. Apart from that there's different arcitectures supported. End of the day the variety helps, not hinders aros progress.

[saimon69]

Actually, unlike Linux, AROS underlings are all coming from a stable release of the nightlies, so the fragmentation is just superficial: you can move drivers and programs from one distro to the other and they will still mostly work (with of course exception of ABIv1) - then Icaros in example had some added local scripts but nothing prevents you to reverse engineer them a bit amd make them work in AspireOS, in example.