Premier Manager 3 "Not enough disk space" ?

[carvedeye]

Hi all I am trying to install pm3 onto my 1200 and when I run the installer and select the destination I get You need at least 2.5mb" , But I have over 10gig of free storage on my games partition ? I have also tried other various software like words worth 4se and I get the same result?

Any Ideas?

TIA

[fishy_fiz]

Not a solution to the overall problem, but have you tried a manual install?

[Matt_H]

Don't use the game's own installer - use WHDLoad instead.

The reason you're getting the out of space error is because you actually have too much space for the older software to understand. The free space value is probably overflowing a 32bit buffer and wrapping around to a negative value, which is why it thinks it's full. This happens with installing some other programs, too. It's a bug in old versions of Commodore's Installer, and many other old tools as well.

If you really insist on using the original, non-WHDLoad version of the game, there's a workaround. I'm assuming the install routine uses Commodore's Installer, and that you have v43.3 or newer of said utility in either C: or SYS:Utilities on your hard drive. First, make a copy of the Premier Manager disk. Then, on the *copy* of the disk, change the default tool of the HD install routine to just plain Installer, or C:Installer or SYS:Utilities/Installer, whereever you have it on your hard drive. The game's original default probably points to :C/Installer or some other location on the floppy disk. Changing it to the hard drive version (and thus, the newer, bugfixed version) will probably solve your problem.

If the HD install routine uses some custom tool, you're probably out of luck. You can install it to a smaller partition, or maybe RAM:, and then move it. If you don't have a smaller (2GB) partition, or if RAM: doesn't work, WHDLoad is your only option short of repartitioning your hard drive.

EDIT: Actually, there's one more option: installing to a small hard disk image file. But it's very complex to set up and I'm not even sure of the details. There's info kicking around the net if you want to try this route.

[paul1981]

EDIT: Actually, there's one more option: installing to a small hard disk image file. But it's very complex to set up and I'm not even sure of the details. There's info kicking around the net if you want to try this route.

Also, a RAD disk would be an option as well (providing you have ram to spare). Easier than a disk image file, but the RAD mount list would have to be edited to increase its capacity to however large it needs to be. I think it's 79 cylinders for a standard floppy, so multiply that by 4 for a 4 disk install.


EDIT:
...........So the idea being once the game has installed onto your giant 'virtual floppy', you can then simply drag it across onto your hard drive............

[carvedeye]

Not a solution to the overall problem, but have you tried a manual install?

What do you mean by manual install? could you elaborate

[carvedeye]

Also, a RAD disk would be an option as well (providing you have ram to spare). Easier than a disk image file, but the RAD mount list would have to be edited to increase its capacity to however large it needs to be. I think it's 79 cylinders for a standard floppy, so multiply that by 4 for a 4 disk install.

What's a RAD disk?

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

What's a RAD disk?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AmigaOS#RAM_disk

 IMHO this is another reason why I always keep my Workbench partition under 500MB, and located as the first partition of a drive.  To avoid these sort of incompatibilities.  

[paul1981]

What's a RAD disk?

The RAD icon should be located on your hard drive in the SYS:Storage/DOSDrivers drawer. If it's not there, then it'll be on your Storage disk that's part of the Workbench 2.x/3.x disk set.
Double click it and it will instantly create a virtual floppy in your computer's memory. What I'm saying is that you could copy the RAD file, rename it and edit the copy by loading it into a text editor and increasing the number of cylinders to increase the capacity of the virtual floppy to say... 4 floppies or whatever (memory permitting). Best way to learn is to play around with it yourself.

[paul1981]

What do you mean by manual install? could you elaborate

What he means is that some games aren't copy protected and in some cases it's just a matter of copying the files over from the floppy disk(s) onto a drawer on your hard drive. If when you put the game disk in and it looks empty, try going to the Window Menu and selecting "Show -> All files".
Sometimes, they even show up as having no files at all, so in such a case a manual install isn't going to be possible.

[Erol]

select the destination I get You need at least 2.5mb
TIA

I know it may seem a silly question but is this the informational requirement during install,  i.e
checking you have enough space,  or does it fail with that message?