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Re: The MorphOS lust may soon be over...
« Reply #44 on: February 24, 2014, 08:50:22 AM »
Never mind then.
« Last Edit: February 24, 2014, 05:37:17 PM by takemehomegrandma »
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Re: The MorphOS lust may soon be over...
« Reply #45 on: February 24, 2014, 09:03:55 AM »
Never mind then.
« Last Edit: February 24, 2014, 05:37:55 PM by takemehomegrandma »
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Re: The MorphOS lust may soon be over...
« Reply #46 on: February 24, 2014, 09:04:40 AM »
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First of all, youtube videos does not work. I'm going to try spoofing as ipad but so far, youtube videos do not play, and that was one of the big selling points to me since AROS can not view youtube videos (yet)


Did you do the steps I've given earlier? But anyway, YouTube changes its internals every other day to get rid of anything else than "official way", so sometimes it's a bit catching game with user scripts. If you find embedded way too hard, maybe you could try GetVideo to play videos... although it has also stopped to show some videos for me just recently. Earlier it did work just perfectly for years.

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Next, the spareness of the initial install means you can't really try much out, other than checking out the system core stuff like utilities...


Hope you did find that Applications dir too, but next step is to install Grunch and visit MorphOS-files. Anyway this shouldn't be any problem if you're used classic Amiga ever.

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Unfortunately, no support for airport card means no wifi. I've moved this machine upstairs and since I have no wired ethernet or hubs this means no internet with morphOS.


You can get it into WLAN with handy mini routers like Asus WL-330N or with similar cheaper options from TP-link etc. Internal Airport support might come later, but as it's Broadcom chipset, you don't get needed data to support it without bleed.

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The other thing is themes and the look and feel. Yep just don't like it.
Appears to MACLIKE to me. Why folders and not drawers?


It's just cosmetics which can be changed.

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No screen dragging?


Just like mostly on RTG systems on classic Amigas, screen dragging is lost. But there are solutions if you really want it back. Take a look on Dragon.

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Anyone have a list of system friendly 68k apps I can try out?


What I have installed for example: FXPaint2, PPaint 7.x, ArtEffect4, ImageFX 4.5, Photogenics 5, Elastic/Fantastic Dreams, TV-Paint, GIF-Toolkit, Real3D 3, AMPlifier, AmigaAMP, GoldED, PageStream, AmigaWriter, FinalWriter, FryingPan, MakeCD, TurboCalc, P96Speed, VirusZ, IBrowse, AmTelnet, DCTelnet, Magellan2, NetInfo, SimpleMail, RC-ftpd, smbfs, netfs, Xami, wu-ftpd... few games like Earth 2140, HBMonopoly, Myst, dynAMIte, Payback, Feeble Files... at least those are on my start menus, probably lot more on separate dirs. And dozens of cli commands...

And many 68k programs have native MorphOS ports nowadays, like AmIRC, WookieChat, SimpleMail, YAM, SongPlayer, CED, Diavolo etc...
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Re: The MorphOS lust may soon be over...
« Reply #47 on: February 24, 2014, 09:11:21 AM »
Never mind then.
« Last Edit: February 24, 2014, 05:38:22 PM by takemehomegrandma »
MorphOS is Amiga done right! :)
 

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Re: The MorphOS lust may soon be over...
« Reply #48 on: February 24, 2014, 09:49:47 AM »
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Have you actually Read The Fuc!ng Manual?

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Re: The MorphOS lust may soon be over...
« Reply #49 on: February 24, 2014, 10:07:09 AM »
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Anyone who replies to someone having a problem with "RTFM noob" should be savagely beaten over the head with the FM.


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Re: The MorphOS lust may soon be over...
« Reply #50 on: February 24, 2014, 10:22:31 AM »
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Anyone who replies to someone having a problem with "RTFM noob" should be savagely beaten over the head with the FM.


Although it feels possible that the FM hasn't been read here now... :) TFM contains very detailed info about YouTube playback and enabling/updating the scripts. Problems sound like the advice wouldn't have been used.
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Re: The MorphOS lust may soon be over...
« Reply #51 on: February 24, 2014, 11:10:38 AM »
Never mind then.
« Last Edit: February 24, 2014, 05:38:52 PM by takemehomegrandma »
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Re: The MorphOS lust may soon be over...
« Reply #52 on: February 24, 2014, 12:20:53 PM »
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Well what sucks is I have a 2 year old and I moved all my computer stuff upstairs because well... he likes to destroy everything in HIS living room... :)
 
I didn't feel like running network cables upstairs so I just use wifi but the router and stuff is downstairs.
 
Maybe its time to run some network cables, but thats just going to be a big PITA.

power adapters are ur friend here :)
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Re: The MorphOS lust may soon be over...
« Reply #53 on: February 24, 2014, 01:38:13 PM »
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power adapters are ur friend here :)

Ive been sceptic for quite some time to home plugs sice it's early days. But I gave it a go in our new house due to our position of the living room compared to the computer room where the PfSense box are.

So I tried a home plug solution for the HTPC and I must say I have not had a single problem and the speed is resonable, I have a 1000/1000Mb/s fiber connection and the htpc do not need more then 50-100Mb/s and that the home plugs I use deliver without problems.

I don't use wireless since it works so much better with cables but now I will use home plugs for less critical machines which saves a lot of cable management :)

So I will recommend haywire to try home plugs, they have matured a lot.
 

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Re: The MorphOS lust may soon be over...
« Reply #54 on: February 24, 2014, 02:31:08 PM »
RTFM yes point taken, I'm pretty sure I scanned through the readme file must have missed the youtube stuff.
 
And while we're on that subject don't go attacking a new users because who thinks "Gee my browser is not working right, let me update my user scripts" Any other OS system, the browser just works right from a clean
install, so there. Sorry this does not work from a clean install, but it does not work right.
 
And geez, people are sure critical. Sorry I haven't drank the cool aid from either the red or blue camps so I'm still allowed to think independantly and have an opinion, even if you don't like it. I'm allowed to think it looks too mac like or that I don't like the look of the ugly window decorators. Yes you can change it? Great, but I'm allowed say I don't like the default look.
 
If you do good for you.
 
On the chrystalis pack, someone here besides me said its a huge mess. Don't assume user error when others are saying it borks the whole system...
 
So far, both the browser does not work right, and the "upgrade pack" everyone said should be the first thing you install totally screwed up my system, and your attacking me like I'm retarded.
 
Hey dumbass, there is nothing in the manual about this software addon everyone says is a must have completely screwing up the system, so rtfm? That would not help regain the hours I lost having to completely start over with the install.
 
 Oh and I'm sorry I'm not allowed to ask questions because other people have asked the same questions. GEEZ what a friendly bunch of nerds you are...
 

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Re: The MorphOS lust may soon be over...
« Reply #55 on: February 24, 2014, 03:03:23 PM »
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And while we're on that subject don't go attacking a new users because who thinks "Gee my browser is not working right, let me update my user scripts" Any other OS system, the browser just works right from a clean
install, so there. Sorry this does not work from a clean install, but it does not work right.


Well, we all have been helpfully saying that update the scripts all the time in this thread. We're sorry that Flash is closed source and YouTube is a bitch, can't do much for it. Companies behind aren't interested to support marginal systems or even being nice for 3rd party support.

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And geez, people are sure critical. Sorry I haven't drank the cool aid from either the red or blue camps so I'm still allowed to think independantly and have an opinion, even if you don't like it. I'm allowed to think it looks too mac like or that I don't like the look of the ugly window decorators. Yes you can change it? Great, but I'm allowed say I don't like the default look.


Calm down, nobody isn't arguing about that. I don't use default theme either, because I think it's a bit too candy like.

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On the chrystalis pack, someone here besides me said its a huge mess. Don't assume user error when others are saying it borks the whole system...


I think most of us are a bit sceptical about Chrysalis pack, that's why we haven't been recommending to install it. At least I'd wait few days it coming stable from the beta stage.
 
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So far, both the browser does not work right, and the "upgrade pack" everyone said should be the first thing you install totally screwed up my system


I think we didn't say it should be installed.. and elsewhere it's usually said that it's good for testing before building own setup and that it may cause problems. Anyway it should do that much harm to test on first install because it's not that big step to start over if you don't like that.

Sorry for the negative feelings, but I think we've tried to stay realistic here...
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Re: The MorphOS lust may soon be over...
« Reply #56 on: February 24, 2014, 04:09:39 PM »
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No screen dragging?

No by default.

But ... https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1450510868510396&set=vb.1441856596042490&type=3&theater
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Dragon  is a small commodity that tries to mimic screendragging as it is known  from AmigaOS3.x with AGA and some CGX versions (and soon OS4 too).                      Dragon  is not perfect. All that Dragon allows you to do is to drag the  frontmost screen down, so that any screen behind it becomes visible.  Releasing the mouse-button again will pop the screen back into its  original position. Pressing the right mouse-button while dragging will  beam you to the screen shown behind or cancel the drag depending on your  settings.
                      It's  not possible to have th dragged screen stay at the dragged position.  This commodity simply is good for having a quick look at what is going  on on the screen behind without switching screens.
                      Dragon works best when all screens have at least the same colour depth.
                                                    
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Re: The MorphOS lust may soon be over...
« Reply #57 on: February 24, 2014, 05:39:42 PM »
Never mind then.
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Re: The MorphOS lust may soon be over...
« Reply #58 on: February 24, 2014, 05:47:17 PM »
When it came to my decision making, it was a choice between OS 4.1 and MorphOS. To me I figured MorphOS is a better choice one:

1) I get a hardware for just 80 bucks
2) I can have the OS in a laptop
3) There are more software availability, drivers and features than it's cousin OS 4.1

So things like screen dragging, bloated software during CD installation, theme and getting youtube to run 100% perfect like Windows, Mac or Linux was not on my priority list.

I think sometimes we have to compromise with what we got and actually go around any obstacle in order to get the best of what we got.
 

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Re: The MorphOS lust may soon be over...
« Reply #59 from previous page: February 24, 2014, 06:41:04 PM »
I agree. I'm going to play with it more this week. I'm pretty sure I'll like it
alot more once I get alot more software installed for testing.
 
Many people here provided lots of sources, thanks!
 
As far as the EMac itself, I really like it. Its compact, nice keyboard and mouse, Apple makes good elegantly designed hardware... I was just never big on paying so much for it. Luckily, g4/g5 hardware is super cheap now.
 
Best regards,
 
Steven