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Infringement of AmigaOS trademark
« on: February 19, 2014, 11:44:46 PM »
Some lamer phone company is infringing Hyperion's AmigaOS trademark with their so-called "AmigoOS" operating system:

http://www.gsmarena.com/gionee_elife_s55_is_the_thinnest_smartphone_in_the_world-news-7859.php

Has this been brought to Hyperion's attention? IANAL, but it look to me like a clear case of trademark infringement, in the same way Lindows was deemed to be an infringement of the Windows trademark. There's a requirement to defend trademarks in situations such as this or they become diluted and eventually invalid.
 

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Re: Infringement of AmigaOS trademark
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2014, 11:50:41 PM »
@Minuous  

i seriously doubt they'd care. but nonetheless -- let's wait for number6's official reading on the situation. he's usually the expert around here on the legal shennaigans surrounding The Great and Holy Name. :)  

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Re: Infringement of AmigaOS trademark
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2014, 12:20:01 AM »
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@Minuous  

i seriously doubt they'd care. but nonetheless -- let's wait for number6's official reading on the situation. he's usually the expert around here on the legal shennaigans surrounding The Great and Holy Name. :)  

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Re: Infringement of AmigaOS trademark
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2014, 12:32:56 AM »
It doesn't matter whether they care about this particular instance, it may still need to be defended. Quote from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trademark: "In the case of a trademark registration, failure to actively use the mark in the lawful course of trade, or to enforce the registration in the event of infringement, may also expose the registration itself to become liable for an application for the removal from the register after a certain period of time on the grounds of "non-use". It is not necessary for a trademark owner to take enforcement action against all infringement if it can be shown that the owner perceived the infringement to be minor and inconsequential. This is designed to prevent owners from continually being tied up in litigation for fear of cancellation."

So the crucial question seems to be whether this is a "minor and inconsequential" breach. Given that the device will be released in 41 countries and seems to be getting a lot of press attention my opinion is that is a major breach.

My reading of the Settlement Agreement suggests that Hyperion are supposed to notify Amino who then have 25-day window of opportunity to take action against the infringer; if Amino decline to take action then Hyperion may do so.
 

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Re: Infringement of AmigaOS trademark
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2014, 12:37:21 AM »
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It doesn't matter whether they care about this particular instance, it may still need to be defended. Quote from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trademark: "In the case of a trademark registration, failure to actively use the mark in the lawful course of trade, or to enforce the registration in the event of infringement, may also expose the registration itself to become liable for an application for the removal from the register after a certain period of time on the grounds of "non-use". It is not necessary for a trademark owner to take enforcement action against all infringement if it can be shown that the owner perceived the infringement to be minor and inconsequential. This is designed to prevent owners from continually being tied up in litigation for fear of cancellation."

So the crucial question seems to be whether this is a "minor and inconsequential" breach. Given that the device will be released in 41 countries and seems to be getting a lot of press attention my opinion is that is a major breach.

My reading of the Settlement Agreement suggests that Hyperion are supposed to notify Amino who then have 25-day window of opportunity to take action against the infringer; if Amino decline to take action then Hyperion may do so.


That is still the process as of today.

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Re: Infringement of AmigaOS trademark
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2014, 12:54:14 AM »
A competitor who uses a trademark that is confusingly similar to an existing trademark can be prevented from doing so by the application of trademark law based on the "likelihood of confusion".

In determining likelihood of confusion, courts evaluate several factors. No one factor is determinative in and of itself, and how important one factor is over another is very case specific. The factors are:

-Whether or not the goods or services using the same mark compete with one another. Marks that are used on similar or related goods or services are more likely to confuse consumers as to the source of those goods or services. Even where the plaintiff's products are not exactly similar, the court may in some cases consider how likely the plaintiff is in the future to sell similar products.

-Whether or not the goods or services are so closely related that they are being marketed through the same stores or channels of distribution.

-Whether or not the alleged infringer intended to trick consumers in order to "cash in" on the plaintiff's business good will.

-Whether the marks are similar in appearance, phonetic sound, or meaning.

-How careful the consumer is likely to be prior to purchasing. The more sophisticated the consumer (e.g. business owners versus children), or the more expensive the product, then the more discriminating the consumer is expected to be, and the less likely confusion will be attributed to them).

-Whether or not the companies are accessing overlapping customer bases. If the companies both sell largely to senior citizens, to teachers, or to home-based business owners, there is more likely to be consumer confusion.

-The legal strength of each of the marks. The greater the public recognition of a mark as a source identifier, the more likely that similar uses will be confusing.

-Whether there has been any actual confusion. If so, this is not conclusive evidence of likelihood of confusion, but must be weighed together with the other factors.
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Re: Infringement of AmigaOS trademark
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2014, 02:17:00 AM »
It's Amigo OS. male.  Amiga OS is female.  Maybe they should get together and produce some offspring.
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Offline MinuousTopic starter

Re: Infringement of AmigaOS trademark
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2014, 02:29:17 AM »
@Lionheart:

I'd say "yes" to most of these points, and "possibly" to the others. So they would have a strong case.
« Last Edit: February 20, 2014, 02:31:33 AM by Minuous »
 

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Re: Infringement of AmigaOS trademark
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2014, 02:31:56 AM »
"Amiga" and "Amigo" are two different words. I see nothing to get excited about, and good luck making a legal case out of it.
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Re: Infringement of AmigaOS trademark
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2014, 02:40:00 AM »
So are Lindows and Windows; there is no need for them to be identical.
 

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Re: Infringement of AmigaOS trademark
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2014, 02:52:12 AM »
First, Amiga and Amigo are two different words so there is no likelihood for confusion.  The Amiga is a retro operating system, that no one in consumer technology space knows even exists anymore except for us few.

There is no likelihood for confusion because the Amigo OS is bundled with a phone that no one believes is an Amiga.  But I concede that if they named the phone AmigoOne THEN, Bill and Darren have a right that they could huff and puff a little but the likelihood of a lawsuit.  Well you have to have money lawsuits are expensive.

Lets face it, Amiga Inc and their products are not for retail order but are sold through the web. Will they overlap each other?  All technology overlaps one another but for those that want a portable Amiga.  Well, Amiga Inc and Hyperion have not been able to market a portable product.  I personally dont see a case but I think Hyperion and Amiga Inc have better things they could spend their remaining funds on rather than engaging in a lawsuit that will probably outlive both companies.

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Re: Infringement of AmigaOS trademark
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2014, 03:25:20 AM »
Quote from: Minuous;759222
Some lamer phone company is infringing Hyperion's AmigaOS trademark with their so-called "AmigoOS" operating system:

http://www.gsmarena.com/gionee_elife_s55_is_the_thinnest_smartphone_in_the_world-news-7859.php

Has this been brought to Hyperion's attention? IANAL, but it look to me like a clear case of trademark infringement, in the same way Lindows was deemed to be an infringement of the Windows trademark. There's a requirement to defend trademarks in situations such as this or they become diluted and eventually invalid.

No its Amigo OS ... You did it more with Blue Balls.
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Re: Infringement of AmigaOS trademark
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2014, 03:38:14 AM »
I would like to see Hyperion try to "do something" about this - then get crushed in court by more lawyers than there are OS4 users.
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Re: Infringement of AmigaOS trademark
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2014, 03:40:55 AM »
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Lets face it, Amiga Inc and their products are not for retail order but are sold through the web. Will they overlap each other?  All technology overlaps one another but for those that want a portable Amiga.  Well, Amiga Inc and Hyperion have not been able to market a portable product.  I personally dont see a case but I think Hyperion and Amiga Inc have better things they could spend their remaining funds on rather than engaging in a lawsuit that will probably outlive both companies.


I take it that Amiga Inc is still up for sale?
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Re: Infringement of AmigaOS trademark
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2014, 05:06:09 AM »
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I take it that Amiga Inc is still up for sale?



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