Thylacine installation issues

[curtis]

Okay, I'm banging my head against a wall here and I'm getting nowhere!

First, installed the Poseidon stack.  Everything seems to have installed.  I said yes, install the USB stack.

Clicked on Trident and got the message MUI wasn't running.  What?  Bugger.  Found the MUI files and installed it.

Trident running.  Yea!

Go to Controllers and add thylacine.device.  Click online and get the following message:

Opening DEVS:USBHardware/thylacine.device unit 0 failed/device unit failed to open (-1)

I"m running a GVP Combo 030 with WB 3.9 and 2MB  chip and 16MB fast/other.

Any and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated as I'm starting to wonder why I bought this @#$@#%^%# thylacine board!

Curtis

[Gulliver]

I am sorry for the isues you are having, but you should know that the Thyclacine hardware is buggy. Its chip is known to have troubles working with hubs under some circumstances.

Anyway, it is pretty usable for low speed devices (mouses, keyboards and such) if you just connect them directly without any hub, as they are not very picky on signal loss. I do not recommend the highway to be used for storage devices at all, because there is a change you might end up losing or corrupting your data.

[danbeaver]

The thylacine board was designed with its own USB stack in mind; this is available online from the original developers.  The Poseidon stack works with it, but in the Zorro2 setting it seems unreliable.  I got Poseidon working in an A2000 with the original stack first identifying the card.  You may want to try Analiis too.

Yes, it is a USB 1.1 device; it will work fine with memory sticks, mice, keyboards and printers; it is too slow for a USB Ethernet dongle.  The true nice thing is that it is currently being made and sold by Genny_flick and others.  I just received 2 of his mini-thylacine boards with up to 4-port support; still wise to use a powered hub.

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

I assume you copied thylacine.device into the correct directory?  It's not included as part of Poseidon and needs to be done manually.  Thylacine is pretty buggy under ZII, but you already know my thoughts on that, LOL.   Good luck!

[curtis]

@Gulliver:  Yeah, I know it's pretty slow, especially compared to modern devices, but still it's easier to use a thumb drive to transfer images than a floppy, especially with files that are larger than 720K!  A 512M thumb drive resolves that issue quite nicely.  And I've got a TON of those things laying around.

@ Oldsmobile_Mike:  Hadn't thought of the installer putting things in the wrong place!  Will double-check that.

Thanks for all the help guys!

Curtis

[Amiwest]

http://web.archive.org/web/20110723031034/http://thylacine.boing.net/

I have not used one but here is a link to there old site which has a Compatibility guide.

[curtis]

Well, the 8.3 situation got me again!

Went to see if thylacine.device had been installed and it had not.  Went back to where I had copied it and saw thylac~1.dev.  Hmmm, I think I may have found my problem!

Renamed the file and made sure it was copied to the right place.

Opened up Trident again, deleted the old profile and created a new one just to make sure then clicked online.  Clock appears and immediately my pointer gets very lethargic and not moving too well.  Looks like the cpu has been maxed out!

So, I've made progress, but still can't get it to work.  It appears the driver is found and it's trying to initialize, but it seems to be running out of resources.

How long should it take for the board to initialize and when should I see results?  The only thing I've got attached to the USB port is a 1GB generic thumb drive.

Curtis

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

immediately my pointer gets very lethargic and not moving too well. Looks like the cpu has been maxed out!

Exactly the same problem I have with mine.  Had slightly more success booting with a clean 3.1 install with nothing but MUI and Poseidon, but what fun is that?    Occasionally mice and keyboards work, I'd take the advice of someone else and not try to use flash drives, otherwise you might wind up with corrupted files.

[curtis]

Ya know, the more I try to get this board working in the 2000, the more I'm tempting to see how far I can throw the board!

May give it up as a lost cause and try it in my 3000.

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Ya know, the more I try to get this board working in the 2000, the more I'm tempting to see how far I can throw the board!
 
May give it up as a lost cause and try it in my 3000.

You can rubber band it to mine when you give it a toss, LOL.  I hear they work really well in ZIII equipped machines, however.  Give it a try!

[mechy]

Well, the 8.3 situation got me again!

Went to see if thylacine.device had been installed and it had not.  Went back to where I had copied it and saw thylac~1.dev.  Hmmm, I think I may have found my problem!

Renamed the file and made sure it was copied to the right place.

Opened up Trident again, deleted the old profile and created a new one just to make sure then clicked online.  Clock appears and immediately my pointer gets very lethargic and not moving too well.  Looks like the cpu has been maxed out!

So, I've made progress, but still can't get it to work.  It appears the driver is found and it's trying to initialize, but it seems to be running out of resources.

How long should it take for the board to initialize and when should I see results?  The only thing I've got attached to the USB port is a 1GB generic thumb drive.

Curtis

Curtis,
   You might want to bring files on fat disks over to the amiga in archives and undo them on the amiga(copy to amiga hd or ram), this way you won't lose the amiga file attributes which will cause you many headaches.

I too have heard those boards work best with mice/kbds. i have never owned one to prove this though.

[curtis]

Mechy,

From my experience with an A2K, don't waste your money!

I'm going to try it in my 3000 and see if life is any better.

Curtis

[danbeaver]

I don't know about the Thylacine in the A3000, but in the A4000D and T, the Thylacine works fine; it ain't the fastest USB solution in the Amiga arena, but it is available and newly made -- can't say that about any of the others, although I'm sure the USB module for the X-Surf 100 will be available within the next few years, just like the ScanJuggler.

[QuikSanz]

@Curtis,

I Have one of those GVP cards. Should be MAX 16 MB only. If adding graphics card drop memory. I never got my X-surf to work on it except for once, I swapped my GVP060 card for the 030/40Mhz with 12Meg and reentered the proper SCSI device and it worked. could never duplicate cause my Tekmagic card failed. I think it's an old ROM problem.

Chris

[QuikSanz]

as a matter of fact, some new updated ROM's for those old bulletproof cards may be a good Idea.

Chris