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question netgear fa411
« on: January 17, 2014, 11:05:40 AM »
this pcmcia  card is on the list of working with 1200 ..doesnt have a cable ..or is the port a network cable cord? its cheap on ebay ..
A500 3.1/8meg/2gigscsi ...wants a 040
CD32/SX1/FMV/FLASHDRIVE/  wants sx32pro
A1200  os3.5 030/50/fpu/mmu/2flashdrives/cd/   indivision coming ..............wants a ppc/060  ACCEL :laughing:
 

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Re: question netgear fa411
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2014, 11:24:10 AM »
Looks like a standard RJ45 jack in the arse end of it to me.  All you'd need would be a CAT5 cable of adequate length to run from the card/Amiga to your router.
 

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Re: question netgear fa411
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2014, 09:22:47 AM »
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Looks like a standard RJ45 jack in the arse end of it to me.  All you'd need would be a CAT5 cable of adequate length to run from the card/Amiga to your router.
decided to buy it..give it a go ..10.00  on ebay fully working  ...maybe my machine will find this one ..when i get it  if it works  can i network straight to my laptop network card ..or must i use a router ?..the 2 routers i have i cant find a power supply for them ..an what sorta network cable  do i use ..i remember there was 2 different types  ..one  was for network  with a router ..one  direct to another machine ..hope this works...be nice to be online with my 1200
A500 3.1/8meg/2gigscsi ...wants a 040
CD32/SX1/FMV/FLASHDRIVE/  wants sx32pro
A1200  os3.5 030/50/fpu/mmu/2flashdrives/cd/   indivision coming ..............wants a ppc/060  ACCEL :laughing:
 

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Re: question netgear fa411
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2014, 04:32:36 PM »
Personally, I would always go with the router method vs. the ad-hoc method.

Pros of routers:  NAT protection (better than nothing, but not bullet proof by any means), inbuilt DHCP services, network management options aplenty, room for future growth, etc.  A decent Amiga TCP/IP stack will support DHCP so hopefully it's as easy as plug and play, for the most part.  Using a link to a laptop requires the laptop being present, noodling around setting up IP addresses for the ad-hoc connection, etc.  Last consumer grade router I bought was about $35 and worked a treat with my old A1200 back then, but I've switched to bigger iron routers since (Cisco in a rack).  Was completely plug and play and didn't require another machine being on and present.  If you go the router method, make sure you have admin privs on the WAN side disabled for security - and always change the inbuilt, default logon credentials (logon name, password) even if WAN side admin rights are disabled as they should be.

You mention you have several routers laying about, minus power bricks.  Can always take a peek on the back of said routers, note the voltage and amperage required (look it up on the manufacturers website if you need to), and you should be able to pick up a power supply brick for a few bucks at a Radio Shack type store.  On the consumer end of things, I've always been a fan of the WRT style routers.

As for cables, a straight through cable will be used from a router to a PC.  A Crossover cable will be needed for switch to switch type connections.  Both will need to be CAT5 (8 wire/4 pair) rated for good measure.

Good luck!
 

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Re: question netgear fa411
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2014, 12:26:00 AM »
I'd like to add to Duce's fine comments:

The cable can also be CAT 5e, CAT 6, CAT 6e, and so on, with CAT 5 being the minimum. Some cablse use the long-form label e.g. Category 5

How is the laptop connected to the internet? WWAN (Wireless WAN i.e. 3G wireless internet) or Wi-Fi? Have you used internet sharing on the laptop OS before?

I agree with Duce in preferring a router option. Another added benefit is that your A1200 can be online without the need for the laptop to be on.

When it comes to getting a power supply for an existing supply-less router it is very easy. Every piece of electrical equipment will have a label specifying Voltage (supply) measured in Volts (V) and Current (draw) measured in Amperes or Amps (A).

For example: If your router has a specification of 12V 1A, then any power supply that has a spec of 12V and 1A will work. Furthermore, the power supply can have a current rating of anything above 1A as long as the output voltage is 12V.
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Re: question netgear fa411
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2014, 08:44:02 AM »
i have wireless broadband  (usb) ..so i can plug it in my laptop  or  main i3  machine  ..probably  laptop  cause it can sit  next to the amiga  ..i3 machine in loungeroom ..id have to have laptop on for the  broadband to be active
A500 3.1/8meg/2gigscsi ...wants a 040
CD32/SX1/FMV/FLASHDRIVE/  wants sx32pro
A1200  os3.5 030/50/fpu/mmu/2flashdrives/cd/   indivision coming ..............wants a ppc/060  ACCEL :laughing:
 

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Re: question netgear fa411
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2014, 03:57:25 PM »
I was able to get an A2000 online by running an Ethernet cable to my iBook and then routing traffic through the Mac's wireless (easy to set up in Mac's system prefs). It worked fine for getting me out to the Internet, but I couldn't get any local network services running (Samba, Envoy) due to the routing and complexities of the subnet. Someone with more networking ability could probably get it working, but I ultimately decided just to get another dedicated wireless bridge so I could have it directly (wirelessly) connected to my main router - problem solved.
 

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Re: question netgear fa411
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2014, 06:10:37 PM »
Not sure why anyone would find it desirable to link to another machine when routers offer far more security, room for expansion, and they don't require a master machine.  But whatever works for you - routers these days are cheaper than a flat of beer, is all.  I just couldn't be bothered to be reliant on a master/host machine when a 4 port router can feed internet to multiple machines without the need of having a PC backfeeding via clumsy ad hoc.

Worth it for the built in NAT and DHCP alone, to me.  Cable/DSL modem to router via ethernet, ethernet to all the machines on the network with no need for a host/feeder ad hoc machine and all that, etc.

The ad hoc method works, but what happens if that machine keels over, gets left at work, gets stolen, etc?  With a router it wouldn't matter cause you are not reliant on a host machine for net.  I just find ad hoc inelegant for anything other than very temporary connections.  So much nicer to just have 4 (or more) open RJ45 ports on a router that you can plug anything you like into with zero configuration on the computer end required and no other host computer needed, be it an Amiga, or be it a buddy that drops by with an XBox or something.  Internet should be as easy to use as AC power, open ports, plug and play - and a $20 router does that.
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Re: question netgear fa411
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2014, 02:19:42 AM »
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i have wireless broadband  (usb) ...


I can see why you might be hesitant to go down the router path given that your internet is cell based.

If it is 3G wireless broadband then this A$35.00 3G Router will work:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Netcomm-3G32W-Pendo-Buddy-Box-3G-Cable-ADSL2-Router-built-in-voice-adaptor-2nds-/310743189156?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item4859bcc6a4&_uhb=1

There are routers that support 4G/LTE USB sticks but they will set you back A$100+

This way all the computers in your home can be online at the same time.
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3) Amiga CD32 + SX1, OS 3.1