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Offline matt3k

Re: Indivision ECS and Picasso II
« Reply #44 from previous page: March 11, 2014, 05:32:42 PM »
Sure you can take my GVP Spectrum to try it out.  I will even swap the GVP for the Picasso II if it works for you...

The GVP is a 2 meg card and works great...
 

Offline Oldsmobile_MikeTopic starter

Re: Indivision ECS and Picasso II
« Reply #45 on: March 12, 2014, 03:07:44 AM »
Well, damn. So I started recording a video to try to explain the issue I was having better, and it seems like I may have figured it out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fO4z18HBy0&list=UUf87dyQP0Q50Tmy-H7zqqIQ

It looks like when the Amiga is using the PII to display an image, the Indivision is still outputing some kind of signal. So that's why my screen when black when I plugged in the pass-through - it was trying to display whatever minimal signal the Indi was sending.

I found one thread that mentions this sort of, here: http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=65148

Possible solutions:

- find some sort of software to completely disable Indi output when the PII is on. Maybe a setting in P96, or something in CGX (as mentioned in the above thread). Don't really want to switch to CGX now that I've got P96 working...
- find a video card that ignores this non-signal the Indi is sending out (possibly @matt3k's GVP Spectrum?)

Any other ideas? I'm getting there, I think, sorry for the long rambling video, LOL. ;)


Edit - On second thought, I don't think that is the case, because then when I have an Amiga screenmode displaying through the Indi, if I plug it into the PII it should pass it though. Gaah, this is getting way more complicated than it needs to be. :(
« Last Edit: March 12, 2014, 03:13:22 AM by Oldsmobile_Mike »
Amiga 500: 2MB Chip|16MB Fast|30MHz 68030+68882|3.9|Indivision ECS|GVP A500HD+|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|Cocolino|SCSI DVD-RAM
Amiga 2000: 2MB Chip|136MB Fast|50MHz 68060|3.9|Indivision ECS + GVP Spectrum|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|AD516|X-Surf 100|RapidRoad|Cocolino|SCSI CD-RW
 Amiga videos and other misc. stuff at https://www.youtube.com/CompTechMike/videos
 

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Re: Indivision ECS and Picasso II
« Reply #46 on: March 12, 2014, 03:21:57 PM »
I may be off base, but wouldn't the RGB signal always be there and PII chooses to pass on?  My vote is for frequency/refresh issue? no logs to check?
 

Offline Oldsmobile_MikeTopic starter

Re: Indivision ECS and Picasso II
« Reply #47 on: March 27, 2014, 05:01:45 AM »
OMG.

VICTORY.

How do I make that font size bigger?  ;)

After struggling with this for what feels like months, I finally have it working.  With significant help form Matt3k and even an email from Jens, I now have my Indivision ECS working with the pass-through connector on a GVP Spectrum.  It is everything I'd hoped it would be, and feels great to finally have completed the project.  I think now I'm finally "done" with my A2000.  I was just browsing the web, looking up articles on Wikipedia, then jumped right into a game of Turrican II, smooth and flawless.

Maybe I can finally close the case up?  I think it's been months since I last put its lid on.  Although I would like to replace my 4MB GVP simm's with 16MB modules, and I'm sure there's a few more things I can add...  hehe.  :lol:

I think I will just go to sleep now before I break something or come up with any other crazy ideas.  :)
Amiga 500: 2MB Chip|16MB Fast|30MHz 68030+68882|3.9|Indivision ECS|GVP A500HD+|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|Cocolino|SCSI DVD-RAM
Amiga 2000: 2MB Chip|136MB Fast|50MHz 68060|3.9|Indivision ECS + GVP Spectrum|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|AD516|X-Surf 100|RapidRoad|Cocolino|SCSI CD-RW
 Amiga videos and other misc. stuff at https://www.youtube.com/CompTechMike/videos
 

Offline Oldsmobile_MikeTopic starter

Re: Indivision ECS and Picasso II
« Reply #48 on: March 27, 2014, 05:14:02 AM »
OMG.

VICTORY.

How do I make that font size bigger? ;)

After struggling with this for what feels like months, it looks as though I finally have it working. With significant help form Matt3k and even an email from Jens, I now have my Indivision ECS working with the pass-through connector on a GVP Spectrum. It is everything I'd hoped it would be, and feels great to finally have completed the project. I think now I'm finally "done" with my A2000. I was just browsing the web, looking up articles on Wikipedia, then jumped right into a game of Turrican II, smooth and flawless.

Maybe I can finally close the case up? I think it's been months since I last put its lid on. Although I would like to replace my 4MB GVP simm's with 16MB modules, and I'm sure there's a few more things I can add... hehe. :lol:

I think I will just go to sleep now before I break something or come up with any other crazy ideas. :)
Amiga 500: 2MB Chip|16MB Fast|30MHz 68030+68882|3.9|Indivision ECS|GVP A500HD+|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|Cocolino|SCSI DVD-RAM
Amiga 2000: 2MB Chip|136MB Fast|50MHz 68060|3.9|Indivision ECS + GVP Spectrum|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|AD516|X-Surf 100|RapidRoad|Cocolino|SCSI CD-RW
 Amiga videos and other misc. stuff at https://www.youtube.com/CompTechMike/videos
 

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Re: Indivision ECS and Picasso II
« Reply #49 on: March 27, 2014, 06:22:26 AM »
So Picasso II was collateral damage then?  Sad.
 

Offline Oldsmobile_MikeTopic starter

Re: Indivision ECS and Picasso II
« Reply #50 on: March 27, 2014, 06:33:18 AM »
Something like $500 worth of Picasso II's shipped to the States from Europe, yeah, pretty much. Waiting to hear back from Matt3K if he wants one to complete our deal. I just got tired of beating my head against the wall with them. They work fine, just not in conjunction with the Indivision. That being said: The email I got from Jens suggested connecting a couple pins together on the PII to make it work. It was pretty technical stuff but it looks like the Spectrum already included this fix, so once I got that working I didn't investigate further. Maybe someone more daring than me will try it in the future? ;)

Amiga. What can I say? It's a labor of love. Including all the head-beatings against the wall. :D
« Last Edit: March 27, 2014, 06:38:06 AM by Oldsmobile_Mike »
Amiga 500: 2MB Chip|16MB Fast|30MHz 68030+68882|3.9|Indivision ECS|GVP A500HD+|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|Cocolino|SCSI DVD-RAM
Amiga 2000: 2MB Chip|136MB Fast|50MHz 68060|3.9|Indivision ECS + GVP Spectrum|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|AD516|X-Surf 100|RapidRoad|Cocolino|SCSI CD-RW
 Amiga videos and other misc. stuff at https://www.youtube.com/CompTechMike/videos