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Re: Learn about love of OS4 users
« Reply #74 from previous page: January 03, 2014, 11:27:52 PM »
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I find it hard to believe someone would hot glue ram chips in a 3,000$ + computer.


POIDH.

Yup.  Lets see the proof of this "poorly built" hardware.
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Re: Learn about love of OS4 users
« Reply #75 on: January 04, 2014, 12:24:53 AM »
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LMAO.   VOX SUING???  Dude has to get a loan to buy a pair of socks and you think he's gonna sue?  Please.  

"In Britain" there is some sort of law about selling goods and them not functioning etc.. see what I wrote above for the reply.



A computer needs drivers to work to its fullest capability,a computer without drivers is like a car without a transmission, the computer is incomplete and should not be sold until the problem has been rectified.

If the company does not support its x1000 customers then can its x2000 customers expect the same treatment?.
 

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Re: Learn about love of OS4 users
« Reply #76 on: January 04, 2014, 12:32:15 AM »
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A computer needs drivers to work to its fullest capability,a computer without drivers is like a car without a transmission, the computer is incomplete and should not be sold until the problem has been rectified.

Was this known prior to purchasing the X1000?  And no..bad analogy.  His system does run...just misses a few gears now and then.
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Re: Learn about love of OS4 users
« Reply #77 on: January 04, 2014, 12:40:50 AM »
So you think it is perfectly reasonable to sell inadequately developed products?
 

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Re: Learn about love of OS4 users
« Reply #78 on: January 04, 2014, 12:43:27 AM »
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So you think it is perfectly reasonable to sell inadequately developed products?


Was this known prior to purchasing the X1000?
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Re: Learn about love of OS4 users
« Reply #79 on: January 04, 2014, 12:48:25 AM »
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Was this known prior to purchasing the X1000?


You are asking me if Vox knew you thought it was okay to sell inadequately developed products before he bought his x1000?

Since I have only just asked the question, I doubt if Vox knew the answer.
 

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Re: Learn about love of OS4 users
« Reply #80 on: January 04, 2014, 12:56:18 AM »
The missing drivers issue is well known, and it is well known add on cards must be used to make up for it.  It's also one of the reasons I never bought one, but the main reason was I simply don't buy pre-built PC's of any sort and A-EON still doesn't offer a bare mobo option, afaik.

A guy taking out a loan to buy something beyond his means and not doing the 3 minutes of investigation to learn the above facts doesn't necessarily make it a poor or misleading product.  The thing showed up on his doorstep working 100%.
 

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Re: Learn about love of OS4 users
« Reply #81 on: January 04, 2014, 12:59:02 AM »
" In January 2012 A-Eon announced that AmigaKit.com would start shipping AmigaOne X1000 to customers with AmigaOS4.1 Update 5 pre-installed. It would also be supplied with a license for AmigaOS4.2 which could be downloaded when it is released by Hyperion Entertainment. "


It is now january 2014. 2 years. For 2 years some people have been waiting for the release of these drivers. So when will the drivers be released?

When will smp or at least some functionality of the second core be working on amigaOs 4.x?

When will Amiga os4.2 be released for download by Amigaone x1000 owners?
 

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Re: Learn about love of OS4 users
« Reply #82 on: January 04, 2014, 01:00:56 AM »
I'd have thought that anybody who's been paying attention of the OS4 scene over the past few years should know exactly what to expect when buying an X1000.

Not really sure what all the fuss is about?
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Re: Learn about love of OS4 users
« Reply #83 on: January 04, 2014, 01:07:14 AM »
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You are asking me if Vox knew you thought it was okay to sell inadequately developed products before he bought his x1000?

Since I have only just asked the question, I doubt if Vox knew the answer.



Did he or did he not know not all software/drivers were developed for it?

He *did*.

Looks like it's his fault.  End of story.
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Re: Learn about love of OS4 users
« Reply #84 on: January 04, 2014, 01:12:21 AM »
Well, if all the people here who think it is okay to buy inadequately developed products had paid for a Natami, even though the developer had the integrity not to offer it for sale before it was finished, we would have had a 68k amiga compatible years ago.
 

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Re: Learn about love of OS4 users
« Reply #85 on: January 04, 2014, 01:44:20 AM »
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Normally...I would encourage anyone to consider this...but...hmm...
Vox, not to appear to attack that tactics you have used, but are you sure you want to throw in with us?
We tend not to be that contentious.
Development is slow, but steady, and I'm not sure we even care about impressing the general Amiga community anymore.

Also, we have our own issues (wifi being one of them).
Also, as our developers are not significantly compensated, we tend not to abuse them.

In fact, I'd consider a few to be friends.

So, if you can avoid the current level of contention, jump in.


Just speaking personally, but as a former OS4 user who pretty much has used MorphOS exclusively (in AmigaNG terms) for over a year now, I'm very satisfied with the software and the community.  My main reason for the switch was my ageing A1XE was starting to behave flaky, and I couldn't really justify spending 3 grand on an X1000 to replace it, I already used MorphOs too so decided just to switch to that full time.

I find the pace of development of the OS much quicker (4 major OS revisions in a year is incredible), the third party software is generally more up to date, complete and bug-free, the whole experience just feels so much more finished and polished.  Of course there are still some things to be done, wifi support being the major one (but as I use a mac mini jacked in via ethernet it doesn't bother me so much).  I also find the community on Morphzone to be very welcoming and the developers much more open and friendly (I've never had a MorphOS core dev wish me to burn in flames for example, the feeling I got as an Os4 user was that of contempt from the developers mostly).  

Just my 2c, but as another former OS4 convert, I have found the whole MorphOS experience to be very good.  I still have my A1XE and it gets hooked up every now and then, most recently with the DOPUS and OWB released for OS4, but when my A1 finally bites the bullet I won't buy any more OS4 hardware.
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Re: Learn about love of OS4 users
« Reply #86 on: January 04, 2014, 01:57:03 AM »
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A computer needs drivers to work to its fullest capability,a computer without drivers is like a car without a transmission, the computer is incomplete and should not be sold until the problem has been rectified.

If the company does not support its x1000 customers then can its x2000 customers expect the same treatment?.

Right...
Don't buy and A-eon system, because they don't need stupid customers.

Again, it was shipped with cards that replaced the functions that were not yet supported.

As to the X2000, sign me up (I'm not a whining moron).

Apparently selling an earlier board with a critically flawed Northbridge is OK, but a well designed, functional board is not because some on board devices didn't have OS4 drivers at release.

Man, I wish that we have all these 'problems' in the MorphOS community.

Anytime Trevor tires at his current pursuit, he can always make stuff for us (especially now that Hermans is no longer part of A-eon).
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Re: Learn about love of OS4 users
« Reply #87 on: January 04, 2014, 02:08:52 AM »
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Right...
Don't buy and A-eon system, because they don't need stupid customers.


Who else will buy their products?
 

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Re: Learn about love of OS4 users
« Reply #88 on: January 04, 2014, 03:49:54 AM »
@ haywire. When the A1000 was released in 1985 it came shipped with a buggy WB1.0. Hang on... That sounds similar to the x1000 (My point here is that neither was fully functional when released).

@danwood. Have you thought about putting your Morphos system in your Commodore gaming case? That would be classy :)
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Re: Learn about love of OS4 users
« Reply #89 on: January 04, 2014, 04:47:56 AM »
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Well, if all the people here who think it is okay to buy inadequately developed products had paid for a Natami, even though the developer had the integrity not to offer it for sale before it was finished, we would have had a 68k amiga compatible years ago.


Well, if all the people here who think it is okay to not do research before spending $3000 on a motherboard that did not have all drivers/software implemented, we would all be complaining like vox is.

See what I did there?
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