Crash course in CS-PPC! Weirdness!

[redrumloa]

Ok I have 2 CSPPC cards, one CD, updated libs and no manual. So far every step I have tried has proven weird. A web search gives me no help for a manual.

Let's start from the beginning. What do I do? MB jumpers? Libs?  etc?

Also weirdness.. I plug in a cs-ppc and I can boot to a terribly unstable WB, but I cannot get the normal early boot menu. The video seems to go out of this 2002's frequency range :-? It does the same thing when trying to boot from the emergency boot disk. I am really wondering if this A4k mb has issues  :-?

[Rob72]

Manuals for the CS-PPC cards can be found here:

http://www.amiga-hardware.com/manuals/cyberppcpdfmanual.lha

http://www.amiga-hardware.com/manuals/cyberppcman.lha

Good Luck...hope this helps...

EDIT: The PDF manual link, despite stating it is English/German...is German only.

The non PDF is German/ English...scanned jpegs...first half of the files are German, the other half is English.

[redrumloa]

Ok I seem to have the 060 side up and running ok, just played Payback pre-PPC. Now I am updating it and see if I have PPC:-)

I suspect the 040 overheating caused lots of HD corruption. I had tons of junk going on in bs folders and files. I may hve to format and install from scratch:-/ Everting is pretty much working except Amidock which was hard crashing the system. i deleted it and so far so good..

[Rob72]

AmiDock will crash everytime without the correct libraries installed in LIBS:

68060.library
68040.library
68040old.library

That goes for a CS-MK-3...not sure about the PPC.

PS. That's two assists...one more, and you have to give me your spare CS-PPC  :-D  ;-)

[redrumloa]

Umm.no giving up an CS-PPC, but I appreciate the help! uuuh..where does one find the C= 68040 library? Not on OS3.9 cd:-o

Edit: Found it on OS3.1, trying:-)

[Rob72]

From the latest phase5 68060 library...from Aminet or from:-

http://www.amiga-hardware.com/drivers/drivers/A4000_Accelerators/PPC060Install.dms

or:-

http://amiga.resource.cx/install/P5-SystemDisk-200.dms

You will need to rename the C= 68040.library to 68040old.library in LIBS:

Rename the 68040dummy.library to 68040.library (file size should be much smaller than C= 68040.library), and place in LIBS:

Place the 68060.library in LIBS:

And that should be it... note: this is from memory...i am using a WarpEngine 4040 at the moment... and haven't looked at the above software archives...

[redrumloa]

Ok AmiDock is working, but I am still getting instability! Mostly whenever I try to use the CD-ROM drive. I have a Creative 52X CD-ROM drive hooked to the internal IDE port, with no IDE-fix. Is the internal IDE that flakey? Also the 68060 CPU feels aweful hot, I don't remember them running this warm :-?

[Acill]

Hmmm.. Well mine ran hot, but not to hot to touch on my MK III, but stable as a rock. The CS-PPC 060 runs about the same, but I have put a fan on it so keep it alive. Make sure you install the last WarpUP software and the last PowerUP emulation software. Should take care of it all.

[redrumloa]

The weirdness continues. Here is what I have found so far.

1) The IDE is ultra flakey no matter what using this CD-ROM drive.
2) A3640 - installed it seems to work ok, but overheats after a while and gets totally wacko. Early boot menu jittery but comes up.
3)CS-PPC 233 w/ 060/50 - Can't get early boot menu, video total freaks out and monitor won't show anything as if the frquency went out of range. Otherwise will boot AmigaOS and runs super duper fast (seems stable at first impression) with PPC applications like PayBack.
4)CS-PPC 200 w/ 060/50 - Early boot menu comes up like normal, no jittery video. Everything seems to work fast.

Now what gives? Here are my burning questions.
a) Is the A4k IDE really that flakey with CD-ROMs, or possible just certain ones?
b) Wht the flakey or shot video output in certain modes like early boot menu with 2 out of 3 turbocards? Do 2 accelerators have issues? Sounds far fetched??

I'm taking this slow, I'm not getting frutrated or anything. Just trying to put my finger on the issues here :-)

[rayt]

3)CS-PPC 233 w/ 060/50 - Can't get early boot menu, video total freaks out and monitor won't show anything as if the frquency went out of range. Otherwise will boot AmigaOS and runs super duper fast (seems stable at first impression) with PPC applications like PayBack.

Did you connect a 15khz monitor to the aga output or a vga/multiscan monitor? The csppc has a feature to show everything (csppc menu/early startup menu/etc) in 31khz. Maybe this feature is switched on. You can set it in the configuration menu of the card (hold esc after power on/reset).

[tonyw]

Hey, Red,

The early 4000s had a real overheating problem with a couple of little PLCCs (SMD) on the motherboard, underneath the 3640, front of the Kickstart ROMs. They may have not been replaced in yours. Also in a desktop 4000, EVERYTHING runs very hot. The sooner you can get some cooling air onto the '060, the better. A tower is the best solution.

tony

[TjLaZer]

I have 2 4000's and have IDE CD-ROMs and a Zip-100 hooked up with no problems.  One has a GVP-m 4060 @ 66MHz and the other is a 030.  I am actually using a Sony CDRw on the one with the 060.  Make sure that setpatch patches the scsi.library or you will need atapi.device.

[zipper]

1) The IDE is ultra flakey no matter what using this CD-ROM drive.

I have had bad experiences with 32 and 52 x Creative drives with my A4000 mobo IDE.

[zipper]

Have you checked the flash versions of the CSPPC boards? The oldest versions may have problems. Check "version cybppc.device"  - I must say I haven't the latest flash version as no problems have existed. And the last versions were made to support G-Rex PCI etc.

[redrumloa]

Whoa! I wake up to find just about every question I had answered in detail! As always you guys come through, thanks :-)

@rayt
I have a regular C=2002 RGB monitor connected. I suspected it was going to a frequency out of range. What seems to be a problem though is if I hit esc it still goes out of range. Am I going to need to make my own RGB->VGA adapter?

@tonyw
Good info, thank you for it. Do you happen to know the location #s? I'll speak with CE and his father about these, they probably have experience with them. It IS in a tower btw, it's my project machine:-)

@TjLaZer
I have OS3.9 installed so setpatch is likely in place, though I see a likely answer below:-)

@zipper
That probably explains it. Problem is I have 3 other CD-ROMs the A4k won't even boot with when hooked up. Looks like I will be using either the CS-PPC SCSI and/or Buddha:-)

@zipper #2
No I havn't had a chance to check the flash revision yet. What utility do i use to check it?

@all
Thanks again. It's nice to have friendly answers so close at hand, cheers!