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Offline Megamig

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Re: The value of "real" Amiga hardware
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2013, 12:46:53 AM »
Oh stop complaining...

Amiga hardware prices are fair considering legacy Amigas have not been produced for over 17+ years. I wonder how many of those complaining would be happy to sell their Amiga collection for fire sale prices. If so, I am more than willing to buy them!!

I recently listed a Amiga 3000 on eBay. I based my BIN price on the fact that Amiga 3000s do not appear often on eBay in my country (I check often) and that Amiga 4000s command high prices. It did not sell - who cares.. I will hold onto it until someone is prepared to pay a 'decent' price for it (just like many Amiga users on here)

As for those who purchased Amigas in the early days when they are cheap.. Good luck.. For those who want them now for cheap.. Bad luck!
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Re: The value of "real" Amiga hardware
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2013, 01:58:52 AM »
@Haywirepc - all of the parts you listed can be found on Amibay or AmigaKit. I expect it will cost you $200-$300, give or take, unless you want to go a little higher on the accelerator. Let me know if you're having trouble finding any of them, I've seen links to purchase pretty much every item you listed within the last day or two. Honestly that's not too bad, considering what some of these other parts go for. :(
 
@Tenacious - now you understand! Most days a search for "Amiga 2000" on ebay is going to yield you a couple chips, a Video Toaster board, some dead floppy drives, a couple fake sellers with systems listed for $800-$1000 (look at them, they're all using the same pictures, it's some kind of scam), and three pages of Amiga World magazines at $10 a pop. There are basically almost no systems left to buy, is what it seems like.
 
IMHO @Megamig should sell one of his A1200's to @Haywirepc. The former doesn't need 'em as he's clearly tripping over stacks of A3000's and A4000's, and the latter has been asking for reasonable prices on those small bits for months. Or maybe that's just the socialist in me, thinking "the rich should share their wealth". I'd Robin Hood that guy, LOL. :D
Amiga 500: 2MB Chip|16MB Fast|30MHz 68030+68882|3.9|Indivision ECS|GVP A500HD+|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|Cocolino|SCSI DVD-RAM
Amiga 2000: 2MB Chip|136MB Fast|50MHz 68060|3.9|Indivision ECS + GVP Spectrum|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|AD516|X-Surf 100|RapidRoad|Cocolino|SCSI CD-RW
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Re: The value of "real" Amiga hardware
« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2013, 02:12:01 AM »
Here is my opinion on how many:

If you have a couple you play with, fine. If you have some you use and have one of each boxed for collection purposes fine. Someone is hoarding who has has "stacks" of them, especially stacks of them in original boxes. How many you actually gonna use ?


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I not trying to dampen the Christmas spirit, but, you seem to write a lot of posts villainizing and labeling folks who have more Amigas than you do.  How many Amigas makes an Amigan evil?  

Most of the Amigas in my possession were rescued from certain oblivion over the last 25 years.  I'm not sorry for it.  I intend to preserve them deep into the future.

On a positive note, I value your expertize that you have shared generously with me and other Amiga users.  You seem like a well rounded and balanced person otherwise.  :)

Sour grapes don't become you.
I gots me a Video Toaster...where do I put the bread in ?!?! :confused:
 

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Re: The value of "real" Amiga hardware
« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2013, 02:29:41 AM »
Hey Tenacious,

I have no ill will or malice towards this guy at all, but I've said it before, HE is the SINGLE reason there are no Amigas to collect. Quite simply, he owns them all...:biglaugh:

http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/a_amiga_inframe.htm

I'm not saying it's evil, but I am pretty sure this is what 'Mike means by "hoarding". If you disagree please post :D
I gots me a Video Toaster...where do I put the bread in ?!?! :confused:
 

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Re: The value of "real" Amiga hardware
« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2013, 02:32:33 AM »
Just wanted to share this with the thread. So I ordered a Picasso II from a guy in Greece this morning. Excited for it to get here, it'll be the first Amiga video card I ever own. I've been watching for one for months.  The thread on Amibay only had two views before I snapped it up, LOL. After shipping and Paypal fees it'll cost me over $250 USD.
 
Think that's expensive?
 
I was watching a couple other video cards. They both sold today. Here's what they went for:
 
Cybervision 64/3D. $513.96 USD
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=111242576457&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:US:3160
 
Picasso IV. $524.63 USD
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=121239691795&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:US:3160
 
Crazy! Someday if I ever find someone sitting on a stack of Amiga video cards, I'm going to go all "mob rule" on them, LOL. :biglaugh:
« Last Edit: December 29, 2013, 02:42:36 AM by Oldsmobile_Mike »
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Amiga 2000: 2MB Chip|136MB Fast|50MHz 68060|3.9|Indivision ECS + GVP Spectrum|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|AD516|X-Surf 100|RapidRoad|Cocolino|SCSI CD-RW
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Re: The value of "real" Amiga hardware
« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2013, 02:44:48 AM »
Quote from: royalcrown;755647
HE is the SINGLE reason there are no Amigas to collect. Quite simply, he owns them all...:biglaugh:

I got as far as "15 A1200's" before I started to weep silently, LOL. ;)
 
Edit: Notice that website has been several years since it's even been updated?  What's that guy doing with all of them now?  Is he even still active in the community?  Or are they collecting dust?
Amiga 500: 2MB Chip|16MB Fast|30MHz 68030+68882|3.9|Indivision ECS|GVP A500HD+|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|Cocolino|SCSI DVD-RAM
Amiga 2000: 2MB Chip|136MB Fast|50MHz 68060|3.9|Indivision ECS + GVP Spectrum|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|AD516|X-Surf 100|RapidRoad|Cocolino|SCSI CD-RW
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Re: The value of "real" Amiga hardware
« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2013, 02:59:16 AM »
Maybe he got trapped under a pile of computers and never made it out...I hope not...but you never know.

OR...the weight of his gear caused his house to sink to the center of the earth.

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I got as far as "15 A1200's" before I started to weep silently, LOL. ;)
 
Edit: Notice that website has been several years since it's even been updated?  What's that guy doing with all of them now?  Is he even still active in the community?  Or are they collecting dust?
I gots me a Video Toaster...where do I put the bread in ?!?! :confused:
 

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Re: The value of "real" Amiga hardware
« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2013, 03:02:01 AM »
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
 
You rock, dude.  If you ever make it down to the DC area I'm going to buy you a beer, LOL.  :D
Amiga 500: 2MB Chip|16MB Fast|30MHz 68030+68882|3.9|Indivision ECS|GVP A500HD+|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|Cocolino|SCSI DVD-RAM
Amiga 2000: 2MB Chip|136MB Fast|50MHz 68060|3.9|Indivision ECS + GVP Spectrum|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|AD516|X-Surf 100|RapidRoad|Cocolino|SCSI CD-RW
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Offline Gulliver

Re: The value of "real" Amiga hardware
« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2013, 03:52:08 AM »
A simple equation that will help you solve this issue:

Amiga current value = (Retail price when model was being discontinued / 2) * Hoarders * (Profitters + 100) + FUD * Ebay R@rity - item condition + sentimental value + mad seller randomness
 

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Re: The value of "real" Amiga hardware
« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2013, 06:45:52 AM »
Quote from: Gulliver;755657
Amiga current value = (Retail price when model was being discontinued / 2) * Hoarders * (Profitters + 100) + FUD * Ebay R@rity - item condition + sentimental value + mad seller randomness

Ha!  Your math is spot-on!  :biglaugh:
Amiga 500: 2MB Chip|16MB Fast|30MHz 68030+68882|3.9|Indivision ECS|GVP A500HD+|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|Cocolino|SCSI DVD-RAM
Amiga 2000: 2MB Chip|136MB Fast|50MHz 68060|3.9|Indivision ECS + GVP Spectrum|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|AD516|X-Surf 100|RapidRoad|Cocolino|SCSI CD-RW
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Re: The value of "real" Amiga hardware
« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2013, 01:35:17 PM »
These days ebay is really a last ditch place to find Commodore stuff. I have better luck at yard sales, and flea markets. Old friends are the best help.
I am down to two Amigas these days; an 030 fired A2000 and a stock A1000 (with 2.5Mb). They are used every day, not just stuck on a shelf.
Prices are going to go up. Markets do that. We just have to balance everything (and ignore the stuff that is just too expensive)
I find it interesting we can buy a brand new SD/FF for way less than the old options (I am refering to the Indivision VGA adapter).
A2000 GVP 40MHz \'030, 21Mb RAM SD/FF, 2 floppies, internal CD-ROM drive, micromys v3 w/laser mouse
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Re: The value of "real" Amiga hardware
« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2013, 05:34:45 PM »
Quote from: royalcrown;755647
Hey Tenacious,

I have no ill will or malice towards this guy at all, but I've said it before, HE is the SINGLE reason there are no Amigas to collect. Quite simply, he owns them all...:biglaugh:

http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/a_amiga_inframe.htm

I'm not saying it's evil, but I am pretty sure this is what 'Mike means by "hoarding". If you disagree please post :D


I see he has no early Commodore PC-x series machines, would be fun to contact him and see if he would be interested in a trade for one of his many Amigas ^^
 

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Re: The value of "real" Amiga hardware
« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2013, 06:09:37 PM »
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;755648
Just wanted to share this with the thread. So I ordered a Picasso II from a guy in Greece this morning. Excited for it to get here, it'll be the first Amiga video card I ever own. I've been watching for one for months.  The thread on Amibay only had two views before I snapped it up, LOL. After shipping and Paypal fees it'll cost me over $250 USD.
 
Think that's expensive?
 
I was watching a couple other video cards. They both sold today. Here's what they went for:
 
Cybervision 64/3D. $513.96 USD
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=111242576457&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:US:3160
 
Picasso IV. $524.63 USD
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=121239691795&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:US:3160
 
Crazy! Someday if I ever find someone sitting on a stack of Amiga video cards, I'm going to go all "mob rule" on them, LOL. :biglaugh:


Hey mike, one second here.. i think you are comparing apples to oranges. The picasso II is a old slow,2mb ram card that is zorro2. Its lucky to manage 800x600 and if you try 24bit(i dont think it will do past 16bit with only 2MB),it will crawl.I think the PicassoII+ had 4MB ram.

the cv64/PIV will run rings around that picasso II in a zorro3 machine.
at the end of the day a gfx card is better than no gfx card however ;)
 

Offline zipper

Re: The value of "real" Amiga hardware
« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2013, 06:47:11 PM »
Quote from: mechy;755680
The picasso II is a old slow,2mb ram card that is zorro2. Its lucky to manage 800x600 and if you try 24bit(i dont think it will do past 16bit with only 2MB),it will crawl.I think the PicassoII+ had 4MB ram.
No, they are almost identical (2MB); plus is slightly faster. 24bit is almost unusable slow (800x600 max), I kept 16bit screen if possible.
« Last Edit: December 29, 2013, 06:52:57 PM by zipper »
 

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Re: The value of "real" Amiga hardware
« Reply #28 on: December 29, 2013, 06:56:51 PM »
Quote from: mechy;755680
at the end of the day a gfx card is better than no gfx card however ;)

Depends on what you want from an Amiga.
 

Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: The value of "real" Amiga hardware
« Reply #29 from previous page: December 29, 2013, 07:27:59 PM »
Any graphics card is "probably" better than no graphics card. My concern is the price the darn things are going for (even a crummy one... and half-a-grand for decent ones)! I could use some choice words, but anyway it will be fun to play around with. :p
 
BTW, hey @Mechy, what's your thoughts on removing that one resistor near the back outright, for using modern LCD monitors? I saw your comment a couple years ago on that thread on EAB. Thanks! :)
« Last Edit: December 29, 2013, 07:48:32 PM by Oldsmobile_Mike »
Amiga 500: 2MB Chip|16MB Fast|30MHz 68030+68882|3.9|Indivision ECS|GVP A500HD+|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|Cocolino|SCSI DVD-RAM
Amiga 2000: 2MB Chip|136MB Fast|50MHz 68060|3.9|Indivision ECS + GVP Spectrum|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|AD516|X-Surf 100|RapidRoad|Cocolino|SCSI CD-RW
 Amiga videos and other misc. stuff at https://www.youtube.com/CompTechMike/videos