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Re: X2000 or sue ... your comments
« Reply #44 on: December 24, 2013, 12:31:08 PM »
Programs need to be compiled for Altivec whatever the OS. It's different code to non-Altivec. The only exception is where Altivec is used in shared libraries, but that's rare.
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Re: X2000 or sue ... your comments
« Reply #45 on: December 24, 2013, 12:46:45 PM »
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Don't encourage his delusions, he got what he paid for so there isn't a court in any land that would side with him.

It's not like he was sold broken hardware like the idiots that fell for the Eyetech scam.

I have asked for full refund. And I might inform UK and EU chamber on how they sell defective products with no support (defective on software side). Trevor has done nothing to help me in months.

I am not mad, I am looking for solution before going to court.

And I do love and support AOS4 but betta go SAM460 with MOS or Peg2. X1000 is kind of abandoned by Cyrus now, which is very unfair (see Stevens respons to my small demands)
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Re: X2000 or sue ... your comments
« Reply #46 on: December 24, 2013, 12:47:21 PM »
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@Nicolas, is MorphOS going to be available on the x1000 and x2000?

If not, then does it matter that mos can use the altivec.

You'd have to ask A-EON.

I just stated the minimum requirements that need to be met for me to buy an X2000. Altivec and MorphOS.
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Re: X2000 or sue ... your comments
« Reply #47 on: December 24, 2013, 12:49:06 PM »
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What I find somewhat bizarre and funny is that VOX is so unhappy with the alpha/beta status of X1000 software, that he wants to sue... yet, he doesn't seem to mind going thru all that beta-testing chaos again with Cyrus :D

Now I ask for full refund including import taxes. Great leader from Canada has told me they have left X1000 behind and focus on Cyrus. So yes, its exactly what Nemo lacks - CPU power and its much visible under modern Linux.

What I find Bizzare is that you are still around iako si toliko voleo glupe Amere, nazalost ni Evropljani se nisu bolje pokazali.
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Re: X2000 or sue ... your comments
« Reply #48 on: December 24, 2013, 12:49:25 PM »
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Programs need to be compiled for Altivec whatever the OS. It's different code to non-Altivec. The only exception is where Altivec is used in shared libraries, but that's rare.

That's the Amiga way, use shared libraries that use different code paths depending on what hardware features are available. MorphOS carries on that tradition, it's a shame if OS4 doesn't.
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« Reply #49 on: December 24, 2013, 12:53:36 PM »
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Now I ask for full refund including import taxes. Great leader from Canada has told me they have left X1000 behind and focus on Cyrus. So yes, its exactly what Nemo lacks - CPU power and its much visible under modern Linux.

What I find Bizzare is that you are still around iako si toliko voleo glupe Amere, nazalost ni Evropljani se nisu bolje pokazali.

You were warned what to expect and as predicted your experience is well below par. It's your own fault.

I fail to see how Europeans being only slightly less stupid than Yanks has anything to do with why I come here either.
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Re: X2000 or sue ... your comments
« Reply #50 on: December 24, 2013, 12:54:12 PM »
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Programs need to be compiled for Altivec whatever the OS. It's different code to non-Altivec. The only exception is where Altivec is used in shared libraries, but that's rare.


I believe it is rarely used in OS4 but Altivec could be used to accelerate graphics and sound functionality in the system, for example.
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Re: X2000 or sue ... your comments
« Reply #51 on: December 24, 2013, 12:57:31 PM »
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I have asked for full refund. And I might inform UK and EU chamber on how they sell defective products with no support (defective on software side). Trevor has done nothing to help me in months.

I am not mad, I am looking for solution before going to court.

And I do love and support AOS4 but betta go SAM460 with MOS or Peg2. X1000 is kind of abandoned by Cyrus now, which is very unfair (see Stevens respons to my small demands)


Going to the court costs money and you never know outcome. Just sell your x1000 and buy PowerMac. They don't need you, you don't need them.
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Re: X2000 or sue ... your comments
« Reply #52 on: December 24, 2013, 12:59:36 PM »
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Now I ask for full refund including import taxes. Great leader from Canada has told me they have left X1000 behind and focus on Cyrus. So yes, its exactly what Nemo lacks - CPU power and its much visible under modern Linux.

What I find Bizzare is that you are still around iako si toliko voleo glupe Amere, nazalost ni Evropljani se nisu bolje pokazali.


You are not thinking straight...

you want to return X1000 and buy SAM460... another not fully supported OS4 machine? And on top of that, it's even slower than X1000 under Linux(not to mention, even less supported).

You should buy a Peg 2 or even better a PowerMac G4/G5. And use the change to buy a nice classic machine or a used SAM440 if you really must use OS4.
 

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Re: X2000 or sue ... your comments
« Reply #53 on: December 24, 2013, 01:10:09 PM »
yes buy old and used hardware, that is the way forward :/
 

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Re: X2000 or sue ... your comments
« Reply #54 on: December 24, 2013, 01:15:20 PM »
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yes buy old and used hardware, that is the way forward :/

I thought users are our customers...

Besides, according to your signature you are using 20 years old hardware...
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Re: X2000 or sue ... your comments
« Reply #55 on: December 24, 2013, 01:16:40 PM »
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Yeah, IF they weren't soldering CPUs on the board... so you can't replace them easily.

Yes, it will not be possible to upgrade, PPC are (and have been) BGA packages.
You would need a carrier board (like Apple) or card (like bPlan).
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Re: X2000 or sue ... your comments
« Reply #56 on: December 24, 2013, 01:19:11 PM »
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yes buy old and used hardware, that is the way forward :/

At 2.3 GHz I'd say my G5 is ahead of the X1000.

"Besides, according to your signature you are using 20 years old hardware..."

Now there is an observation. ;)
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Re: X2000 or sue ... your comments
« Reply #57 on: December 24, 2013, 01:24:06 PM »
Any court would immediately throw out the "it doesn't work on the software side" because it runs Linux perfectly well.
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Re: X2000 or sue ... your comments
« Reply #58 on: December 24, 2013, 01:35:44 PM »
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Any court would immediately throw out the "it doesn't work on the software side" because it runs Linux perfectly well.


Yeah, but it was marketed as the new coming of Amiga OS4, not PPC Linux :biglaugh:
 

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Re: X2000 or sue ... your comments
« Reply #59 from previous page: December 24, 2013, 01:54:42 PM »
A judge wouldn't care about that though. It runs software so it's not faulty hardware.
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