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Offline AAACHIPSETTopic starter

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external usb drive
« on: December 18, 2013, 06:58:22 AM »
found a external self powered  usb drive for my amiga 120gig ..20.00  deal ..my chrissy present to myself for my amiga ..plugged in posiden complains about maybe no fat95 installed but it is ..the drive shows up an ide fix finds it as well ..when i disconnect it posiden says drive disconnected  ..so where is the icon for the drive ..i know i need to reformat  it as its been formatted under ntfs  windows  i think ..all the lights come on  when i check it for transfer speed so all seems working ..except  i cant access it..
anyone  help ?
A500 3.1/8meg/2gigscsi ...wants a 040
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Re: external usb drive
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2013, 08:49:59 AM »
Reformat the drive as Fat32 (if it even supports drives that large)? You'll probably also need to create a mountlist with the particular specs of your drive; that's what I had to do on mine to recognize a Fat-formatted SD card. Good luck!
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Re: external usb drive
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2013, 09:03:14 AM »
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Reformat the drive as Fat32 (if it even supports drives that large)? You'll probably also need to create a mountlist with the particular specs of your drive; that's what I had to do on mine to recognize a Fat-formatted SD card. Good luck!
just did that  ..ran snoopdos while mounting the drive  ..got fail on loading ntfilesystem
fat95  is installed  came with the posiedon  drivers latest version 4  ..also says i dont have  bsdsocket libary  fails on that too  ..guess that why networking doesnt go anywhere ....i can actually change the drive inside  the box..but 120 gig i want it to work ..
A500 3.1/8meg/2gigscsi ...wants a 040
CD32/SX1/FMV/FLASHDRIVE/  wants sx32pro
A1200  os3.5 030/50/fpu/mmu/2flashdrives/cd/   indivision coming ..............wants a ppc/060  ACCEL :laughing:
 

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Re: external usb drive
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2013, 11:44:34 AM »
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Reformat the drive as Fat32 (if it even supports drives that large)? You'll probably also need to create a mountlist with the particular specs of your drive; that's what I had to do on mine to recognize a Fat-formatted SD card. Good luck!
quick update ..used partion magic  to format as fat ..fat32 didnt work ..but plain fat did however i could only get 4gig partions ..an only 4 lots 4 gig  partions  on a 120 gig drive what a waste ..just testing it ..copying a whole cd to the drive seeing  if its gonna crash  etc...ill keep working on it  ..
A500 3.1/8meg/2gigscsi ...wants a 040
CD32/SX1/FMV/FLASHDRIVE/  wants sx32pro
A1200  os3.5 030/50/fpu/mmu/2flashdrives/cd/   indivision coming ..............wants a ppc/060  ACCEL :laughing:
 

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Re: external usb drive
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2013, 01:34:06 PM »
Regular FAT is going to have a lot of limitations... Did you try formatting it on a regular PC as FAT32?  It should work. Also the version of FAT95 that comes with Poseidon is old. There's a newer one on Aminet. ;)
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Re: external usb drive
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2013, 01:49:57 PM »
Forget all Windows related stuff...
Reformat it with PFS3... make a 83 GB max partition.
 

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Re: external usb drive
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2013, 10:58:45 PM »
did another format with fat32 ..only  got one 4 gig ..but it works ..what pfs3?..why only  83 gig ..
A500 3.1/8meg/2gigscsi ...wants a 040
CD32/SX1/FMV/FLASHDRIVE/  wants sx32pro
A1200  os3.5 030/50/fpu/mmu/2flashdrives/cd/   indivision coming ..............wants a ppc/060  ACCEL :laughing:
 

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Re: external usb drive
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2013, 11:14:13 PM »
For clarity sake, the reason you're trying to format it as FAT32 is because you intend to use it to transfer files between PC and Amiga, correct?

If you're using it on your Amiga only you can use any one of the more advanced file systems, like PFS:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_File_System

(max volume size says 137GB with that, BTW)
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Re: external usb drive
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2013, 11:18:56 PM »
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For clarity sake, the reason you're trying to format it as FAT32 is because you intend to use it to transfer files between PC and Amiga, correct?

If you're using it on your Amiga only you can use any one of the more advanced file systems, like PFS:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_File_System

(max volume size says 137GB with that, BTW)
just wanna use it as a external drive on amiga  ..i use the usb flash drives to transfer files  ..i did format it on the a1200 ..worked  even though it said  error  ..i ended up with a empty drive ..tested it last night copied whole cd over to it..no crashes  etc ..but id like to use the whole drive ..120 gig i can put everything an anything  on it ..
A500 3.1/8meg/2gigscsi ...wants a 040
CD32/SX1/FMV/FLASHDRIVE/  wants sx32pro
A1200  os3.5 030/50/fpu/mmu/2flashdrives/cd/   indivision coming ..............wants a ppc/060  ACCEL :laughing:
 

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Re: external usb drive
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2013, 11:32:43 PM »
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;754673
For clarity sake, the reason you're trying to format it as FAT32 is because you intend to use it to transfer files between PC and Amiga, correct?

If you're using it on your Amiga only you can use any one of the more advanced file systems, like PFS:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_File_System

(max volume size says 137GB with that, BTW)
pfs  ok i have heard of it...if i install it does it change  my main drive ? ..do i need a serial no or  is it free ? ..just wanna format the drive fully..not change my whole system..
A500 3.1/8meg/2gigscsi ...wants a 040
CD32/SX1/FMV/FLASHDRIVE/  wants sx32pro
A1200  os3.5 030/50/fpu/mmu/2flashdrives/cd/   indivision coming ..............wants a ppc/060  ACCEL :laughing:
 

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Re: external usb drive
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2013, 11:41:39 PM »
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pfs ok i have heard of it...if i install it does it change my main drive ? ..do i need a serial no or is it free ? ..just wanna format the drive fully..not change my whole system..


You can format one drive as PFS, or all your drives, it won't change your main drive unless you tell it to.  You may want to leave your main drive alone and just format the external drive with PFS until you're more familiar with it.  It's free, search for the 5.3 installer on Aminet and the latest AIO-handler, then search for a thread on this forum with a comment by user @Paul1981 that actually explains how to install it (the docs are useless, LOL).

As for FAT95... you only need that if you intend to swap the drive onto a PC to transfer files.  For example I have an SD card in my system formatted as FAT32 that i use with FAT95.  If I want to copy files onto my PC I just put them on the card and plug it in to my PC.  Conversely if I want to copy files onto my Amiga I dump them onto the SD card and plug it into that.  If you have no need for this capability then you have no need of FAT95.
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Re: external usb drive
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2013, 09:26:50 AM »
With a PFS3 formatted disk you can share data with a true Amiga and a PC under WinUAE.
http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/pfs3aio
just rename the file in l:PFS3...

With ANAIIS (and subway or highway) you can also boot and share files on external usb disk with the kickstart 1.2 !
http://aminet.net/package/driver/other/anaiis_boot
 

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Re: external usb drive
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2013, 10:33:25 AM »
downloaded pfs3  not sure the install worked properly  ..my  workbench is called system cause of amigasys4aga ..installed it in my utez directory  ..the pfs doctor program runs but i see no format  selection ..only way this drive seems to work is formatted as fat  ..i did update  fat95 ..no difference ..curious how come a 16 gig flashdrive worked fine as 16gig ..but this drive wont go over4 gig ..ive read about  rdb  etc ..but  not goin in my brain yet ..
ill keep tryin  ..or settle for 4 gig  ..all part of having a 1200  ..fun to play ..just dont wanna kill my main drive  ..just got it how i like it ..
A500 3.1/8meg/2gigscsi ...wants a 040
CD32/SX1/FMV/FLASHDRIVE/  wants sx32pro
A1200  os3.5 030/50/fpu/mmu/2flashdrives/cd/   indivision coming ..............wants a ppc/060  ACCEL :laughing:
 

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Re: external usb drive
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2013, 03:20:32 PM »
Forgot FAT95, or set options to use direct scsi commands...
To prepare a 120 GB disk you should use HDInstTools to set at least one partition.
Then quick format it...