PA Semi announced after the Apple buyout that it would only take orders from established customers. And that at a later date a final order date would be announced.
Yeah, that's really a good sign of a solid and trustworthy longevity...
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they paid more for these than the original units (as no more were being manufacturer the price went up).
Well, that's what happens when there isn't a properly functioning market in place. And this was *no* surprize, everyone (well, many of us at least, go back in time in the forum archives and look yourself) knew this would happen and warned about it (or "trolled" about it, depending on who you ask I guess).
The PA6T was Hyperion's preference. And, at the time, it was the best choice.
It was an obvious stillborn. It was dead, Jim! Old G4 Macs beats it in single core performance (which is the only thing that counts in an Amiga context) and the *cheapest* initial price was $600. And it was the best choice?
Um, just how much do you think it takes to keep a handful of engineers gainfully employed?
And, have you ever worked for a firm that built custom motherboards (because I did).
These figures are actually rather low.
Stated simply, you appear to have no concept how a business works, how costs are accounted for and handled, or the factors related to pricing a product.
And I assure you that you don't need the 16 credits of Economics I had to understand it (some people understand economics intuitively).
All costs have to be paid for.
Wow, I completely failed to get through to you above, didn't I? OK, I'll try again. My whole point above was that it simply isn't possible to think that way in a context of really heavy R&D efforts when there isn't even a market in place to actually carry the costs. And you certainly shouldn't need your 16 credits of Economics to understand that.
If the MorphOS team had properly priced all their work hours from 1999 up until v3.4 according to a proper salary of the senior level, western SW developers they are, and put that cost on the 2000+ MorphOS licenses that has been sold in grand total, what do you think the price of one MorphOS license key would have been? Certainly *not* 50-111 EUR at least, I can assure you that.
And had Fab priced all his work he put into Oddysey in a similar, proper manner, what do you think the price for selling the sources would have been? Certainly not 7500 EUR at least, that's a ridiculous sum if you think that way.
And had bPlan completely outsourced all their Pegasos 2 development to some external company with a work force to provide for, a lot of other over-head costs to cover, and a profit goal on top of that, instead of doing it *themselves*, do you think it would have been possible to introduce the Peg2 at ~$680 incl 15% VAT ("agressively priced" or not)? I'd dare to say: no way!
And had Jens Schönfeld turned to Varisys or whoever and said: "I have this idea of a custom Amiga/C64 floppy controller card, with a PCI interface in one end, and an old Zorro interface in the other so that you could just flip it depending on the computer, or even use the third interface that is an A1200 clock port, and it should have a C64 SID chip on board, and two old C64/Amiga digital joystick connectors, and an Amiga keyboard connector as well, and it should manage 1100 floppy disk formats, can you do that for me?", after all the work requied for that poor Varisys developer who got that on his table to even research what the hell a "Zorro" is, or an "A1200 clock port" is in the first place, then the actual design work on top of that, what do you think the end user price of a single Catweasel of a batch of a few hundred would have been? $1000? $2000? $3000? Would it be worthwhile? And the same with all the other individual computer's stuff. Like the "Commodore One", the C64 gear, the accellerators, etc?
And the stuff from DCE? The Mini Mig? OS4?
It's all the same, *everything* you see around you in this community, all HW, all SW, the OS's, even the forums and other web sites, follows the same laws and principles; the only reason to why it's here, why it's even possible at all, is because everyone behind those things have done the very opposite of what A-eon did, they created the stuff themselves. They built their own houses so to say. There is no market present here, so the very second you introduce market thinking into the equation with your 16 credits of economics, then is when the whole thing collapses with a big bang. Like mixing materia with anti-materia; they can't co-exist together, and the result of mixing them may not be very pleasant. Just like the X1000.
Acube makes their own HW AFAIK. That's the way to go. If you lack that ability, you could perhaps have found other ways. Like refurbishing second hand Macs, put the HW in a new case with your own sticker on it, and offer that machine for $500 or whatever. Entrepreneurship and management. In a non-existing market. Paying $1,200,000 for a second round of anti-materia will just create another bang, another abomination that will take the platform exactly nowhere (except perhaps backwards because of people leaving when they see no hope of a future anyway). And maybe the "market" for $3,000 OS4 systems is a bit saturated now? Maybe those who actually has the possibility to pay that kind of money for something like the X1000/OS4 has already done it?
Ask "vox", maybe he is up for a second run?
