CD0 device running but the CF card is not appearing

[magnetic]

superfrog

Alot of CF cards will NOT work with the PCMCIA and WILL work on internal IDE> The safest bet is to use official Sandisk CFs only. THere are threads online about what cards work and what dont..

sounds to me like this is your problem

[magnetic]

btw "PRep card" as matt stated is only used for PCMCIA memory cards not prepping driveds for HD ur CF card is probably incompatible.

[Matt_H]

@ superfrog76

So, unless you've hit a hardware incompatibility as magnetic describes, I think you should manually go through the installation process for cfd and fat95.

With cfd, make sure you have compactflash.device in Devs: (sounds like you do) and CF0 and CF0.info in Devs: DOSDrivers. Also note that in the readme I linked there are some flags you can set in the CF0 mountlist that might improve compatibility. But before you play with those...

Grab fat95 and copy fat95 from the l drawer of that archive to L: on your system.

Now reboot.

Ok, your system should come up with a freshly mounted, out-of-the-box CF0:. Insert your CF card.

If it still doesn't appear on your Workbench, set one of the flags in the CF0 mountlist as described in the readme file. Reboot again. (Changes to mountlists don't take effect until you reboot.)

If your CF card still isn't showing up, try setting the other flag described in the readme. Reboot yet again.

One last thing to try if that doesn't work: make sure CardReset and CardPatch are being called from somewhere in your user-startup or startup-sequence. Then try the other things I mentioned once more.

If it's still not working, I'm guessing you probably have an incompatible CF card. I've successfully used a SanDisk card on the PCMCIA port. I use Kingston cards on my IDE-CF adapters, but I can't remember if I've ever tested them on the PCMCIA port. It sounds like others have not had a whole lot of success with them.

[superfrog76]

Eureka!

MAgnetic was correct.

So the whole story is this: the CF from Kingston, sold by Amikit, does NOT work as PCMCIA card; I did everything humanly possible to make it work.

Out of frustration, I have restored ClassicWB on the Kingston 4 Gb, and formatted as fat32 the Sandisk 8 Gb: as soon as I put it in the slot, it was correctly mounted.

I can read onto it; which is awesome! Now why one card works as IDE and not as PCMCIA card is a mystery to me (I was reading about SCSI commands in the firmware of the card, which are not present in some newer card...but makes no sense, since both cards are new, altho the Sandisk works and the Kingston doesn't).

I just assumed that since Amikit sell it, it would be compatible with both PCMCIA and IDE, but it is not the case.

I love you guys, I can finally close the case (pun intended )

[Robert17]

It could still be something in your setup, what's your location? There might be someone near who can test your card on a known working system?

I think I remeber having to download and copy cfd.device from Aminet into Devs: on some of my ClassicWB Installs.

Robert.

[superfrog76]

It could still be something in your setup, what's your location? There might be someone near who can test your card on a known working system?

I think I remeber having to download and copy cfd.device from Aminet into Devs: on some of my ClassicWB Installs.

Robert.

I would exclude it Robert...I had the exact version of classicwb on both cards; but when I plug the Kingston, no luck; while the other one works like a charm.

I've done the same exact steps, the CWB version is the same, which I copy from WinUAE to the CF card, plus I tried with a fresh install of WB 3.1, adding the cfd and the fat package...no luck with the Kingston.

To me is OK if one of the 2 works I just finished to restore the image that I had before on the 8 Gb, and the miggy is happily running games out of the 8 GB card

I am in USA-CA btw

[magnetic]

It could still be something in your setup, what's your location? There might be someone near who can test your card on a known working system?

.

Its NOT his "setup" its the card. This is pretty well documented actually. What more proof do you need lol?

@ OP

Glad you got it going!

[mechy]

Eureka!

MAgnetic was correct.

So the whole story is this: the CF from Kingston, sold by Amikit, does NOT work as PCMCIA card; I did everything humanly possible to make it work.

Out of frustration, I have restored ClassicWB on the Kingston 4 Gb, and formatted as fat32 the Sandisk 8 Gb: as soon as I put it in the slot, it was correctly mounted.

I can read onto it; which is awesome! Now why one card works as IDE and not as PCMCIA card is a mystery to me (I was reading about SCSI commands in the firmware of the card, which are not present in some newer card...but makes no sense, since both cards are new, altho the Sandisk works and the Kingston doesn't).

I just assumed that since Amikit sell it, it would be compatible with both PCMCIA and IDE, but it is not the case.

I love you guys, I can finally close the case (pun intended )

The kingston cards are known to be flakey. i dont know if they have bad firmwares or it was a quality control issue on some. I ran into problems with them years ago and now avoid them like the plague(at least the 4gb non pro version with he flower)

[delshay]

Kingston 4Gb standard card works flawless here,its what I use for back-up data in PCMCIA slot.

If you have all the files in the correct place and it still does not work,then it maybe something to do with motherboard reset. Here the card appears regardless of what file system it is using (just quick format).

You could insert card after you have booted in workbench to see if it appears. Here I do not have this problem as I have the hardware reset which allows most PCMCIA card(s) to be swapped without soft reset.

 I also have tri-colour LED for PCMCIA port which makes it easier here "card detect" and "card enabled".

[magnetic]

 I also have tri-colour LED for PCMCIA port which makes it easier here "card detect" and "card enabled".

Now there is a cool hack i wish I had. I read an article a few years back how to do it but lost it. Did you do it yourself? Can u send some pics plz?

[superfrog76]

Kingston 4Gb standard card works flawless here,its what I use for back-up data in PCMCIA slot.

If you have all the files in the correct place and it still does not work,then it maybe something to do with motherboard reset. Here the card appears regardless of what file system it is using (just quick format).

You could insert card after you have booted in workbench to see if it appears. Here I do not have this problem as I have the hardware reset which allows most PCMCIA card(s) to be swapped without soft reset.

 I also have tri-colour LED for PCMCIA port which makes it easier here "card detect" and "card enabled".

"standard" is quite a generic term....each memory card has different controllers and memory vendor, even in the same brand and model; so I would not be surprised if our memory cards are totally different inside

If I would be the one doing something wrong, then the Sandisk shouldn't work, but instead it works fine while the Kingston does not.

I am curious to know if there is a software that reads the internals of a memory card and gives you details about the brand used for the chip, the firmware and such, so we could compare.

Where did you got the 3 led for the pcmcia port? I never noticed that there is one

[superfrog76]

The kingston cards are known to be flakey. i dont know if they have bad firmwares or it was a quality control issue on some. I ran into problems with them years ago and now avoid them like the plague(at least the 4gb non pro version with he flower)

That's the one that I have....the one with the flower...I wish I knew earlier, I would avoid the purchase

[delshay]

I have 4Gb kingston CF card the one with the flower and it works here.

There is a smart way to fix some faulty disk.

It involves a external SCSI PCMCIA reader and two identical cards. I went into the hard drive set-up the part where you read the firmware from a working card. After reading a working card before I saved it I swap it for the faulty card. Note I had to swap the card very quickly "and I mean very quickly" then press save.

I had to swap the card very quickly as the faulty card would lock-up the computer regardless of which PCMCIA slot I used A1200 or external reader.

Faulty card is still working fine up-to this very day.

This procedure does not work in A1200 PCMCIA slot.

EDIT: this is not a firmware update.

[superfrog76]

I have 4Gb kingston CF card the one with the flower and it works here.

There is a smart way to update firmware which I have done here when one of my card went faulty.

It involves a external SCSI PCMCIA reader and two identical cards. I went into the hard drive set-up the part where you read the firmware from a working card. After reading a working card before I saved it I swap it for the faulty card. Note I had to swap the card very quickly "and I mean very quickly" then press save.

I had to swap the card very quickly as the faulty card would lock-up the computer regardless of which PCMCIA slot I used A1200 or external reader.

Faulty card is still working fine up-to this very day.

This procedure does not work in A1200 PCMCIA slot.

It may be possible that the card has a different firmware to start with?

Your method to swap the cards may resolve the problem temporarily, but I wonder if it may cause troubles at one point...with the cheap prices of the cards nowadays, if one won't work I think that it takes less hassle to just get another one, which seems to work most of the times (like Sandisk, from what I can see in many posts).

[delshay]

Sorry correction:

This is not a firmware update,but when something went completely wrong with the disk. It would lock-up the computer when entering hard drive set-up,but I can confirm the above procedure did work.

EDIT last post (my error).