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Re: Odyssey Web Browser for AmigaOS & AROS, *DONATE NOW*!
« Reply #74 on: December 14, 2013, 06:21:40 PM »
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them reason I think are mostly WRONG, the main reason I only donated a small amount is because this is simply open source the code, there are no guarantees it will be easy to port specially if it uses closed sourced Morphos libs or what ever and we need to support the devs who are going to have to port it over and maintain it.

Plus another reason why many OS4 users dont post much any more is there sick of some of crap that goes on in the drama of amiga world web sites and plus maybe they are just simply enjoying there machine and not on web forums as much. I know I've spent a bit more time on my Amiga than on amiga forums. And big thanks to the QT youtube app I finds my self more and more on the Amiga!


No way....is that your reason? I tell you what..I take the reasons of takemehomegrandma more into grain salt than yours!!! The other reasons where you disapproved and spoke against on the behalf of the rest of the community to me sound more correct, valid, sane, logical, and maturer than your reason. If your reason simply put that the drama in this community is the big reason why community no longer support browser so as to not want to read the drama...simply put...is weak at best! The solution to that problem is DO NOT VISIT the site! Problem solved! Same if you listen to a radio show and you find the talk show be political incorrect, sexist, racist, fascist  you name it...the solution to that problem..the nob of that radio. Simply put...change the radio station or turn it off...your problem is solved! However, why stop a good browser that the Amiga needs so badly that could be used for youtube, flash site intensive, do your banking work, etc....just because of the drama that comes in amiga.org or amigaworld.net?

That to me is sooooo illogical that I will go with the previous reason why people do not donate better than your reason.
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Re: Odyssey Web Browser for AmigaOS & AROS, *DONATE NOW*!
« Reply #75 on: December 14, 2013, 07:36:54 PM »
I just kicked in some bucks. If we could get OWB unified across the Amiga platforms like YAM, NList, and other MUI MCCs, that would be *gold*.

OWB really is a phenomenal browser.
 

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« Reply #76 on: December 14, 2013, 08:27:21 PM »
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Stop advocating - true Amigans can use Firefox, so what would they want with a browser based on an abandoned branch (Webkit) for an OS based on stolen code?


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« Reply #77 on: December 14, 2013, 08:28:59 PM »
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Nice of Bill to publisize this effort.
Gee, the so called 'blue' camp seems to be going out of its way to help the other NG OS' get a nice piece of software.


Grandma hit the nail on the head I think.

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It's very sad.
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Re: Odyssey Web Browser for AmigaOS & AROS, *DONATE NOW*!
« Reply #78 on: December 14, 2013, 09:42:18 PM »
reply AmigaClassicRule

Well firstly you can not deny that there is very little present of Os4 users on Amiga.org anymore and so most users wont see this thread and rallying cry that takemehomegrandma is (slightly over) doing for this project. Secondly a thread on Amigan which I think is why the whole project got going in the first place a few seem to question how the bounty was set up, there was some unanswered questions and questing of the amount, after reading that thread I was nearly put off by donating. But again I thought no matter what Fab for his work in 1.19 release deservers some respect and a donation for his efforts so I hope the bounty does reach the target and he gets his reward, I really hope all this money however isn't locked up in the bounty for years to come like some others.

PS: where both speculating as to why not more people have donated there are even more likly reasons not even brought up, not everyone has or trusts pay pal accounts, people dont like putting money into bounties, people might think its too much, people might not like the terms, people might be happy with what they got, people might not simple able to afford to give anything.....the list could go on, but as always it easier for a morpthos fan to say it because OS4 is dyeing off. which I just think is way too closed minded.
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Re: Odyssey Web Browser for AmigaOS & AROS, *DONATE NOW*!
« Reply #79 on: December 14, 2013, 09:56:41 PM »
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BadaBAM!

A new Odyssey Bounty Milestone has been reached! :D

   

Yesterday we passed 50%, and just now someone (who is the lucky one?) paid the 4000th dollar to the stash! :)

Now we can reset our minds:

The price of releasing the Odyssey sources to the OS4 community has never been this cheap!

For only $3500 you could get the browser of your dreams, the #1 killer application your platform needs!

Don't make this opportunity for OS4 (and AROS and ARIX) slip away!


Donate NOW:

:knuddel: . http://www.power2people.org/projects/odyssey/ . :knuddel:

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:)


...and just a few hours later, the bounty has reached 55% / $4.102!

:D

The OS4 and AROS (and ARIX) communities can now get access to the sources of the best Amiga web browser ever produced, for just a mere

$3.398

:cool:

Yes that's right, for just the price of one single X1000 system the entire community can get access to the biggest, best and most important key application!

This is huge! Donate now: http://www.power2people.org/projects/odyssey/

:)
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Re: Odyssey Web Browser for AmigaOS & AROS, *DONATE NOW*!
« Reply #80 on: December 14, 2013, 10:54:20 PM »
I have one question (sorry if I haven't read the whole thread...).
Is this for the future releases too or just the current one when the bounty completes ?
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Re: Odyssey Web Browser for AmigaOS & AROS, *DONATE NOW*!
« Reply #81 on: December 14, 2013, 10:58:54 PM »
@Jose

in the bounty text it states:

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If this project is successfully funded, and as long as the resulting  ports stay true to the original version of the Odyssey Web Browser in  terms of user experience and feature sets, Fabien Coeurjoly plans to  share all source code that he will develop himself for future versions  of Odyssey Web Browser for free.
so probably, but no guarantees.

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Re: Odyssey Web Browser for AmigaOS & AROS, *DONATE NOW*!
« Reply #82 on: December 14, 2013, 11:08:48 PM »
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there are no guarantees it will be easy to port specially if it uses closed sourced Morphos libs or what ever and we need to support the devs who are going to have to port it over and maintain it.


Odyssey uses MUI4, but that has been circumvented before by OS4 developers, and AROS as well for that matter (AFAIK, AROS has a more recent version of Odyssey than OS4 for some reason). And that is probably the thing, a real *developer* will most certainly be needed (as it won't be as simple as build it from some already existing make file on OS4, but it *has been* ported before, don't forget that), but surely that's no problem, right? Fab has a good and verifiable track record of helping both OS4 and AROS developers in their efforts of porting Odyssey to these respective platforms, and this was before anyone paid him a dime for anything. If the OS4 community can't put forward a developer with skills enough for making (and maintaining) a port, then the OS4 as a platform is kind of dead anyway. But I don't think that's the case. Think positive. The first step is getting access to the sources, and like with the Magellan bounty, only good things can happen after that! :)

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Secondly a thread on Amigan which I think is why the whole project got going in the first place a few seem to question how the bounty was set up, there was some unanswered questions


Not correct, all questions has been answered, several times even (on many forums), and everything is crystal clear. Everybody knows perfectly what to expect, what is to be included, and what is not. And the things that aren't included shouldn't be a problem whatsoever for any developer skilled enough to port and maintain Odyssey. It's all open and freely available, and as I said earlier, Fab has answered questions before.

But then there is a certain level of FUD produced by some, which is kind of surprising if you ask me. But perhaps not really after all, considering the people who is spreading it. You see, there seems to be some animosity coming from some against this project, and considering the sources (the people behind it) and their historical agendas, I can only draw the conclusion that this project is "bad" because it competes with the "Timberwolf" from the Friedens (which is "good"). I think that's all, really.

I won't bother telling you why this attitude is sad, and why it will ultimately just bite themselves in their ar$es.

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and questing of the amount


There is absolutely *nothing* to be said about the amount. NOTHING! This is a *genuine* Amiga development, a real native application of the more heavy kind that we simply don't even see in the Amiga world today, and it's *not* to be confused with some half-arsed Linux port of some existing application!

Odyssey is the result of several years of real developments, and if you would put a true market price on that amount of work for a developer in the developed world, this bounty amount is a *blasphemy*! Also, remember that the Friedens got a lot more for a lot less, and what they did for their money was to close the sources of an *open source* project, and the level of their product is nothing but *shameful*! So don't talk about "questioning of the amount" here, please...

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But again I thought no matter what Fab for his work in 1.19 release deservers some respect and a donation for his efforts so I hope the bounty does reach the target and he gets his reward, I really hope all this money however isn't locked up in the bounty for years to come like some others.


Indeed! :) (The current version of Odyssey is 1.21 though, and the version OS4 has is "1.09", twelve(!) versions behind, and it doesn't have the multimedia (etc) stuff!)


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PS: where both speculating as to why not more people have donated there are even more likly reasons not even brought up, not everyone has or trusts pay pal accounts, people dont like putting money into bounties, people might think its too much, people might not like the terms, people might be happy with what they got, people might not simple able to afford to give anything.....


Hey, anyone who doesn't live in a clay hut with straw roof, providing for a family of 15 children by herding sheep on a stony rock hillside, can afford to "risk" $20! There is no excuse, really! Especially not for a community that celebrates $3,000+ computer systems as the way towards a glorious future!

So come on now, AmigaNG! *I* have put in more than a hundred dollars in order to bring *you* a 2013 level of web browsing experience, and I don't even have/use OS4! I'm currently unemployed, I have a 1.5 year old to provide for, Christmas is coming, and in Mars/April we will get a second child. That's all true! So let us see *at least* $20 from you, it's for a good cause, you won't die if you lose it, and you would win a lot if the thing comes true. Come on, it's for *your* platform-of-choice's survival, so please go to...

http://www.power2people.org/projects/odyssey/

...and put in (at least) a twenty!

Merry Christmas!

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Re: Odyssey Web Browser for AmigaOS & AROS, *DONATE NOW*!
« Reply #83 on: December 15, 2013, 12:08:21 AM »
@Jose, eliyahu

Quote from: eliyahu;754393
so probably, but no guarantees.


Given Fab's track record in the history, when he received *no money from anyone* for his work and *still* helped OS4/AROS developers to port *his* work to their platforms, *I* would like to rephrase that to something like:

   "Certainly as long as the resulting ports stay true to the original version of the Odyssey Web Browser in terms of user experience and feature sets, but if the sources are used to create some kind of *fork bastard* like the OS4 version of SFS, then I might pull the plug on future source releases".

But *please note* that this entire statement (*especially* the last part after that comma sign) is *my* words, and *not* Fab's!

Come to think of it, I don't think his words needs any "re-intrepretations" at all!

It's all spelled out clearly in the bounty conditions (which is the *only* thing one should consider, and *not* whatever stuff in various forums (including this post)), under the "Optional" part:

   "If this project is successfully funded, and as long as the resulting ports stay true to the original version of the Odyssey Web Browser in terms of user experience and feature sets, Fabien Coeurjoly plans to share all source code that he will develop himself for future versions of Odyssey Web Browser for free."

I think those are very fair conditions!

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Re: Odyssey Web Browser for AmigaOS & AROS, *DONATE NOW*!
« Reply #84 on: December 15, 2013, 04:56:36 AM »
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So come on now, AmigaNG! *I* have put in more than a hundred dollars in order to bring *you* a 2013 level of web browsing experience, and I don't even have/use OS4! I'm currently unemployed, I have a 1.5 year old to provide for, Christmas is coming, and in Mars/April we will get a second child. That's all true! So let us see *at least* $20 from you, it's for a good cause, you won't die if you lose it, and you would win a lot if the thing comes true. Come on, it's for *your* platform-of-choice's survival, so please go to...

http://www.power2people.org/projects/odyssey/

...and put in (at least) a twenty!

Merry Christmas!

:knuddel:


Well, I really wanted to see if someone was going to volunteer to port it first, but after reading your post, I'm in.

Hope you find some work soon.  Kids are expensive.
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« Reply #85 on: December 21, 2013, 02:42:28 PM »
:bump: 64% and I just added to the bounty again.  Sure would be nice to have this funded by New Year's Day.
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Re: Odyssey Web Browser for AmigaOS & AROS, *DONATE NOW*!
« Reply #86 on: December 21, 2013, 03:01:33 PM »
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Well, I really wanted to see if someone was going to volunteer to port it first, but after reading your post, I'm in.

Hope you find some work soon.  Kids are expensive.

I'm not sure why people are confused by this, the money is for MorphOS developer Fabien "Fab" Coeurjol.
I'm not sure he'd want anyone else messing with his source code.
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Re: Odyssey Web Browser for AmigaOS & AROS, *DONATE NOW*!
« Reply #87 on: December 22, 2013, 10:12:33 PM »
2/3 !

Only 33% to go now!

For only $2553 the community will get access to the sources of the best Amiga browser!

It's close now. Can this happen before 2013 ends?

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« Reply #88 on: December 22, 2013, 10:21:28 PM »
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2/3 !

Only 33% to go now!

For only $2553 the community will get access to the sources of the best Amiga browser!

It's close now. Can this happen before 2013 ends?

:)

Very cool!
Are there more of us than I thought?
Great response for a group of small communities.
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Re: Odyssey Web Browser for AmigaOS & AROS, *DONATE NOW*!
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... and a new top donor!