New A-EON Music Card for Classic Amigas

[OlafS3]

This is not a soundcard in the sense you think propably

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=71174&highlight=prism&page=13

"This card is an audio stream decoder, not a sound card, so I think it's  very unlikely that it will support AHI at all. Would be a million times  more useful than decoding MP3s on an Amiga though..."

[Niding]

No matter what you might think of development pace, atleast Aeonkit do their best with limited resources, to develop the roadmap they prefere.
Thats more than most of us do.

Yes, I would love to have both a clockport expander and A1200 soundcard/Prisma, but I also realise that Aeonkit has probarly taken on TOO many things at the same time. Which in turn slows down each project. Atleast thats my impression.

I remember Trevors comment during his AmiWest presentation where he mentioned the danger of "featurecreep", always wanting to perfect or add features to a product, to the point where it grinds delivery to a grinding halt.

[BSzili]

If you are content with announcements and don't want the actual product, then good for you. They said it went to production in 2014, NovaCoder had videos showcasing the card back the same year. You can understand why people are grumbling.

[Niding]

Earlier Ive commented about Prisma and the fact that Nova used it back in 2014.
I guess what I dont find helpful is the negative tone that some people insist on.

I would have bought Prisma asap, but realised that if I want something, go for whats available. MAS Player is one option, which I went for.
At THIS point in time, Aeonkit might have waited so long that the Prisma card is already obsolete due to Vampire. Hounding them over taking on too many tasks isnt very helpful, since the lack of sales will hit that point home.
Ofcourse, if Vampire and Prisma together will increase overall expirience, then there might still be a market for the card.

Again, Im not particularly in favour of negativity.

[OlafS3]

As I understand it Prisma Music card helps slow main processor to decode resource intense sound formats. That only makes sense with slow hardware, Vampire is also promised to have 16bit sound, together with fast main processor on vampire Prism makes no sense anymore except collectors who see FPGA as not "real" enough. But that market becomes smaller and smaller in future.

[Niding]

As I understand it Prisma Music card helps slow main processor to decode resource intense sound formats. That only makes sense with slow hardware, Vampire is also promised to have 16bit sound, together with fast main processor on vampire Prism makes no sense anymore except collectors who see FPGA as not "real" enough. But that market becomes smaller and smaller in future.

Yup, thats how I understand it too.

That said, maybe there might be developments softwarewise that will help improve performance with a Vampire/Prisma combination. The less work the Vampire has to do, I guess will be a good thing?

If Prisma was sold in 2015 after NovaCoders demostration, they would probarly have sold healthy numbers. Now, I guess it will be intresting to see how AeonKit can advance the product to the point it makes sense to customers...

Alot of assumptions based on too little information.

[BSzili]

Earlier Ive commented about Prisma and the fact that Nova used it back in 2014.
I guess what I dont find helpful is the negative tone that some people insist on.

I would have bought Prisma asap, but realised that if I want something, go for whats available. MAS Player is one option, which I went for.
At THIS point in time, Aeonkit might have waited so long that the Prisma card is already obsolete due to Vampire. Hounding them over taking on too many tasks isnt very helpful, since the lack of sales will hit that point home.
Ofcourse, if Vampire and Prisma together will increase overall expirience, then there might still be a market for the card.

Again, Im not particularly in favour of negativity.

I see. So it's the negative forum posts that prevents Prisma from released. This seems to be a recurring theme in amiga-land. I wish people have shut their trap...

[OlafS3]

Yup, thats how I understand it too.

That said, maybe there might be developments softwarewise that will help improve performance with a Vampire/Prisma combination. The less work the Vampire has to do, I guess will be a good thing?

If Prisma was sold in 2015 after NovaCoders demostration, they would probarly have sold healthy numbers. Now, I guess it will be intresting to see how AeonKit can advance the product to the point it makes sense to customers...

Alot of assumptions based on too little information.

I am not sure if a combination of Prisma and Vampire finally makes sense. Do not forget that everything will move to Vampire in future including chipset emulation and processor. Finally only component used from A600 are keyboard and perhaps some of the interfaces. The same will be true for other amiga models. If it is possible to use addons like Prisma is unknown to me and if it really can be used additional. Has Prisma its own RAM and how much? If there is not much it would propably block the system more than it helps. But that is only guessing in the blue now

I have shortly looked at press release... no mentioning of RAM on the board, only of the DSP processor.

[Niding]

Its not what Im saying, and you know it.

[Niding]

I see. So it's the negative forum posts that prevents Prisma from released. This seems to be a recurring theme in amiga-land. I wish people have shut their trap...

Its not what Im saying, and you know it.

[OlafS3]

Its not what Im saying, and you know it.

Bszili on amigworld about Tabor:

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=40994&forum=33&start=140&viewmode=flat&order=0

"@Spectre660

That's not really an argument, the OS4 h/w "market" is already pretty saturated."

sounds not positive either :laugh1:

Prisma simply should have been sold 2014. We have 2016 now and the market is changing, bad luck

[BSzili]

I sure do. Just as you know that people who would like to buy the Prisma are not "hounding" A-Eon or amigakit, and expecting a positive tone from them is beyond ridiculous.

[BSzili]

Bszili on amigworld about Tabor:

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=40994&forum=33&start=140&viewmode=flat&order=0

"@Spectre660

That's not really an argument, the OS4 h/w "market" is already pretty saturated."

sounds not positive either :laugh1:

Prisma simply should have been sold 2014. We have 2016 now and the market is changing, bad luck

Why does the existence of Vampire make offloading audio decoding from the CPU a bad idea? :confused:

[kamelito]

The problem as they told us is the software, I don't really understand, even if the developer is not up to the task, they could have switch to another one and still have delivered long ago.

Kamelito

[amigakit]

Hi

We have switched a few months ago to two new developers. Hopefully we will have some updates from their hard work.  

The hardware has been complete and is manufactured for some time.

[wawrzon]

Why does the existence of Vampire make offloading audio decoding from the CPU a bad idea? :confused:

offloading compressed audio streams that only works with certain formats and if software provides support for a dedicated and expectedly rather expensive device doesnt make so much sense f you have a cheap general purpose accelerator.