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Planning to make my custom case.
« on: October 18, 2013, 07:04:45 AM »
So, after a lot of back and forth; I've abandoned the idea to put my 1200 board in the 1000 case (the case went down the drain with the owner; it happens when people get too greedy).

Now, I've visited few stores, and sadly, there is not a single desktop case with slim profile, that would fit the 1200 board plus extras....which force me to the sad truth: I must build one from scratch.

Which options do I have? I saw custom made of wood...but wood is the worst choice for a computer that should dissipate heat (plus the heat warps the wood...at least looking at the wooden spoon that we use to cook :) ), and a 1200 with AC adapter and accelerator board is not exactly cold.

Altho I was suggested to go to craft places, and get basically a wooden box and then customize it, so at least I have a solid base to start with.

The other option is to buy something made by a case maker, but I have not found any that makes custom cases in USA; I see modders that modify tower computers, but nobody that makes the case from scratch.

Last thing that I was looking into, is plastic (the one used to make cases for things like raspberry pi, minimig and such...not sure what kind of plastic is that); I may be able to order the sheets cut as I want, and either glue them or use screws, but I am not sure about having a transparent case, nor if I can spray paint it, without somehow cause a fire hazard :)

The option to make it with the 3d printer is not feasible, nor I know if is possible to have parts made of ABS plastic, like the original 1200 case, from a company, if you give them the specs...from what I heard, they don't make single unit, and I don't really need 500 case (unless someone want to share the load and buy ? :D)

Not sure how many of you attempted the transplant of a 1200 board in some different case; I've found only few projects, made many years ago on the site; and they inspired me because they look quite nice :)

I am all ears...any suggestion would help, since I am not exactly a modder....I built a bird house with plywood...so I can make square things :P
 

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Re: Planning to make my custom case.
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2013, 07:58:57 AM »
You will be able to fit the A1200 motherboard and extras inside the "SilverStone Milo ML03B" and fit extras without problems :) Case dimensions:
440x340x105 mm (W/D/H)


That case is quite cheep also :) if I would do a A1200 desktop case ill use something like that :)

Cutout a new back for I/O's, new mounting holes and the motherboard is set, if you want a CD/DVD-drive it has a spot for it, you have to mod to get a internal floppy but not to much work, I would probably put the floppy in the 3,5" HDD cage under the 5,25" facing left or make a cut out in the right part of the front for a floppy.
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Re: Planning to make my custom case.
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2013, 08:39:48 AM »
Looks like a great option, Vs starting from scratch.
 

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Re: Planning to make my custom case.
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2013, 09:44:31 AM »
I love you :) Thanks! They sell it at the local computer store :D I think I saw it but since they had just the box, I was not able to figure out if it was big enough, and if it has a good internal layout to place the board.

Indeed it is a really nice starting point; and being made of metal, allow me to screw on top either some decorative piece of painted wood or ABS; Or I can paint it directly (in "Amiga white") without fear :)

As side note; is there a quick way to adapt a keyboard? I will get the adapter from Amigakit (the one that you stick on top of the chip on the motherboard), but if there is another option I am available to explore.

Also for the power: I have an ATX PC power supply; would be better to get one of these laptop AC adapter (12 or 15V, about 75-90W), and use that adapter from Steadman, in conjunction with a picoPSU?

I love the 1200 case but I need space on the desk...I can save the PS2 keyboard in the drawer when I don't use it, and keep the Amiga ready to be used under my monitor :)

Thanks!
 

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Re: Planning to make my custom case.
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2013, 10:08:48 AM »
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I love you :) Thanks! They sell it at the local computer store :D I think I saw it but since they had just the box, I was not able to figure out if it was big enough, and if it has a good internal layout to place the board.

Indeed it is a really nice starting point; and being made of metal, allow me to screw on top either some decorative piece of painted wood or ABS; Or I can paint it directly (in "Amiga white") without fear :)

As side note; is there a quick way to adapt a keyboard? I will get the adapter from Amigakit (the one that you stick on top of the chip on the motherboard), but if there is another option I am available to explore.

Also for the power: I have an ATX PC power supply; would be better to get one of these laptop AC adapter (12 or 15V, about 75-90W), and use that adapter from Steadman, in conjunction with a picoPSU?

I love the 1200 case but I need space on the desk...I can save the PS2 keyboard in the drawer when I don't use it, and keep the Amiga ready to be used under my monitor :)

Thanks!


You are welcome my friend, im just glad I can help!
I would rather fit a FLEX-ATX PSU inside the case instead of a Pico-psu.

I think your best bet is just to wait for the PS/2 keyboard adapter from Amigakit, but since you know what connection it has you can make the hole beforehand in the case :)

Amiga white is the way to go when repainting the case yes :) I would also print out a sticker with the amiga logo and Amiga 1200D on :)

I wish you all luck with your build!
 

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Re: Planning to make my custom case.
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2013, 12:54:49 AM »
I see, so it is it any better than a PicoPSU 120W? I could fit probably the whole power AC and picoPSU inside the case, and have more space, compated to the flex-ATX PSU (at the cost of 100 dollars extra thou)

So the only way is the ps/2 adaptor then...I was hoping that I can just somehow use the original keyboard and stretch the cable to a size that is longer than the original ribbon cable :)

Getting the case today; will post some photos of how is coming up together :) I have the A1200 tag from the original case, and probably will have to make a decal for the AMIGA name and the boing ball on the top :)

Thanks!
 

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Re: Planning to make my custom case.
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2013, 02:21:19 AM »
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I see, so it is it any better than a PicoPSU 120W? I could fit probably the whole power AC and picoPSU inside the case, and have more space, compated to the flex-ATX PSU (at the cost of 100 dollars extra thou)

So the only way is the ps/2 adaptor then...I was hoping that I can just somehow use the original keyboard and stretch the cable to a size that is longer than the original ribbon cable :)

Getting the case today; will post some photos of how is coming up together :) I have the A1200 tag from the original case, and probably will have to make a decal for the AMIGA name and the boing ball on the top :)

Thanks!


You should be able to get away with a lot less than 120w with an A1200.
 

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Re: Planning to make my custom case.
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2013, 05:23:24 AM »
Well, isn't the original PSU 65W? I've heard that it is not enough to power an expansion board (I have a 030/50, 64 mb), plus the CF card and the DVD rom.

90W should suffice then? I see people using 300W PSU for their case conversion...what the heck do they put in? :P
 

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Re: Planning to make my custom case.
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2013, 05:33:36 AM »
So, I've ordered the material needed; and for the case I am planning to keep the motherboard a bit closed to the center, since the only 3 ports that I will use will be the joystick and mouse ports.

The video is done trough a scart to HDMI converter; so I will keep the scart cable and the HDMI converter inside the case, leaving out only the HDMI cable for the output.

The power is internal, so I will not have to expose the power connector.

Now, is there a way to extend the 9 pin ports? I can get a serial cable, but I am looking for a way to fix the port to the case; and I don't recall to see any bracket with serial connectors...do I have to make my own?

I am planning to cover the back of the case with acrylic, and then cut trough the acrylic to fix the ports that I need (HDMI, 2 serial, the power cord)..is this OK or should I do things in a different way? Better ask before playing frankenstein with my dremel :)

Thanks!
 

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Re: Planning to make my custom case.
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2013, 08:44:22 AM »
If you don't want to buy 9-pin dsub contacts and solder yourself you can buy these since you can mount them with nuts and bolts :)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DSub-SubD-9pin-Buchse-auf-DSub-9pol-Stecker-1-1-13cm-Verlangerung-gut-10cm-/161099997148?pt=DE_Computer_Sonstige&hash=item25824edfdc


Also for the backplate, you could measure the dimensions of it, go to your local metal shop and buy a piece in the same size, maybe a tad thinner to make it easier to work with.

Cut out the holes for connectors with a dremel or anything that works, then cut out the original backplate, save maybe 5-7mm at the edge of the original backplate then use a MIG welder to put the new plate there. If you don't have a MIG Welder then drill holes and use pop riverts.

Pictures would be great!
 

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Re: Planning to make my custom case.
« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2013, 10:41:03 AM »
Thanks Som :) Last time that I tried soldering a connector, people on the other side of the world started to scream in pain and anger ;) I am ok with bigger items, but the connector is too small for my fat fingers :P

I will try to find something like you posted....the guy does not ship in USA sadly; will check my electronic store, hoping that he does not ask a hand a an arm for it (they robbed me 12 dollars for a serial cable; when I was making my joystick LOL).

I do not have a MIG Welder; probably either I have to bolt it, glue it or put rivets :) It sounds simple enough for me; after all I will need just 4 plugs going out of the case.

Will post pictures as soon as I start; I placed the order for the keyboard adapter and the case yesterday :D Thanks!
 

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Re: Planning to make my custom case.
« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2013, 12:15:05 PM »
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Thanks Som :) Last time that I tried soldering a connector, people on the other side of the world started to scream in pain and anger ;) I am ok with bigger items, but the connector is too small for my fat fingers :P

I will try to find something like you posted....the guy does not ship in USA sadly; will check my electronic store, hoping that he does not ask a hand a an arm for it (they robbed me 12 dollars for a serial cable; when I was making my joystick LOL).

I do not have a MIG Welder; probably either I have to bolt it, glue it or put rivets :) It sounds simple enough for me; after all I will need just 4 plugs going out of the case.

Will post pictures as soon as I start; I placed the order for the keyboard adapter and the case yesterday :D Thanks!


Haha no problem :) I bet you could find em for a fair price on ebay, those chinease sellers have free shipping world wide :) Looking forward to see your pictures tho :)
 

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Re: Planning to make my custom case.
« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2013, 04:56:45 AM »
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Well, isn't the original PSU 65W? I've heard that it is not enough to power an expansion board (I have a 030/50, 64 mb), plus the CF card and the DVD rom.

90W should suffice then? I see people using 300W PSU for their case conversion...what the heck do they put in? :P

Just looking at how much watt a PSU can output is a bit pointless in my opinion. The thing is that most of the power on modern 300W PSU's is on the 12V rail, while on the Amiga, a decent 5V output is much more important.

As for your backplate, I would recommend that you use an aluminium plate instead of steel since it is much easier to work with.

Anyway, please post pictures of your progress :)
 

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Re: Planning to make my custom case.
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2013, 04:11:30 PM »
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Just looking at how much watt a PSU can output is a bit pointless in my opinion. The thing is that most of the power on modern 300W PSU's is on the 12V rail, while on the Amiga, a decent 5V output is much more important.

As for your backplate, I would recommend that you use an aluminium plate instead of steel since it is much easier to work with.

Anyway, please post pictures of your progress :)


The most important thing to look at when buying a PSU is the ripple at the 5v/12v at the load the Amiga pulls, ive used PSU's with high amps on 12v and 5v but at low load there was quite some ripple = unstable Amiga.

So allways google a PSU and check ripple values!
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Re: Planning to make my custom case.
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2013, 06:01:53 AM »
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The most important thing to look at when buying a PSU is the ripple at the 5v/12v at the load the Amiga pulls, ive used PSU's with high amps on 12v and 5v but at low load there was quite some ripple = unstable Amiga.

So allways google a PSU and check ripple values!

That might be true :)

The fact is that modern PSU's are really made for modern ATX boards which uses a lot of 12V power, most of them even have a second 12V rail dedicated to the CPU and GPU. I have a theory that maybe it could be an idea to connect something that draws a "lot" of power to the 12V ouputs, like some large resistors or something. This in order to maybe stabilize the PSU a bit.